Sleeper 06, 200543 x 34"Charcoal on vellumSelf-portrait with Dog, 200251 x 36"Charcoal on vellumMmasturbator, 200340 x 46 inCharcoal on vellumwww.chloepiene.com
it's great! i like
Richard Serra is big on hand-eye training and obdurate objects. He's old school.Speaking of Serra, Temple Grandin designs slaughterhouses. They force the animal to follow a path, like a drawing forces your eye to follow a contour.When was the last time you did a blind contour drawing? I remember as a kid some kid telling me about contour drawing - picked it up from his dad. Thats like wanting to amputate your legs or something. Bunch of sickos out there.
I meant blind contour drawing. Blind conte crayon contour drawing. Why not bind your feet while you are at it?
Reminds me of Schiele which is good. I wonder why this body of work is separate from her performances. Why not get the peanut butter in the chocolate?
Reminds me a little of Danica Phelps but darker. Really beautiful lines.
I like pizza day but they never had peanut butter squares with the pizza, I don't think. I guess its more healthy now.Death and the Iron Maiden. death2
Thanks Zip Death and the Maiden and the Three Ages of Women are old images based on even older images of Hecate and Tripartite goddesses. Interesting how the meanings change.And the art historical reading that Hecate carried ropes and a knife to "assist in childbirth" reads as a little naive.More darkness.
the reading may be wrongbut murder is easy compared to childbirth--dont be naive
Death and the Maiden also the Maiden and the Crone used to be the same person. Medieval European art and cultural feminism both tried to clean that up. I guess new age people also do the same thing when they incorporate pagan archetypes. Just pointing to that. It's interesting how her work warps these old and older images. And in a dirty not cleaned up way.
speaking as an emerging crone-- its fuked upsigourney weaver, take me away
Traditions of monistic thinking versus dualistic thinking. Throw the baby out with the bath water?Or write the dirty bath water out of art history?
anatomy 101 on VIAGRA ®
looks like the illustrations from the Joy of Sex
No, that's Tracy Nakayama.
And there's not much joy in Chloe's vision of sex.
thanatos + erosgive the edge to thanatosit always wins
this is lame drawing, i'm guessing the viagra comment means this is limp - I couldn't agree more.this looks sadly traced or something,seriously trace a few anatomy drawings with some variation of line, dark light, thick thin...i wish everyone would do something with skulls and masturbation so we can all get over the fact that it isn't dark.. if i found someone masturbating over a skull in my basement when i was 6 i would be traumatized.. this? not so much..blind contour drawing is more about helping the eye to see rather than broad ambiguous gestures..like taking another route..can be helpful when learning how to make drawings not like this...
so let's say this person could draw really well (as these drawings are on vellum and it is questionable /and also examining the drawings on her site); for me, it is decorative because these are meaningless and no more interesting than commercial work or studies, or preliminaries to something else (all of which can engage- but i want more)...
...and whether these are traced or not, does not bother me- so long as the final outcome is done with conviction and is visually alluring (i sense these would look mediocre in the flesh)....i would also state that much "commercial work " could be more meaningful than these ( i.e., a carefully chosen frame out of south park, etc, etc ...)
I prefer looking at Schiele's drawings...... is that because they're less "perfect"?
not sure what you mean because i hardly consider these 'more perfect' (if that is what you imply, these seem mediocre )... shiele could draw anything 'perfect'(academic) or 'not'; 'not' meaning 'expressiveness' and he had a command of his expressiveness ...
some Scheile drawings look a bit "distorted" or maybe as you say... expressive .. whereas these have a more "plastic" or expected.. look.. to me.
Yes.. mediocre probably sums it up.
plus she totally skimped on the anus depiction. whats up with that?@kelli, just curious as to why it's good that it reminds you of Schiele? as Schiele is every teenage art fan's favorite first artist (and therefore somewhat tired to reference),just wonderin bout that statement, maybe there's something behind the observation I'm not getting
Cooky I didn't say as good as Schiele. No Way. She seems like a disjunctive artist whose work is split into parts. The performances are totally separate and the drawings seem like sketches for something (but what?). Something about this both irritates and interests me. I wonder what it would be like to merge the two things together. What would the X-ray images be like in a performance? Some sort of heavy metal Day of the Dead thing? I dont get it and I usually get things.People say I remind them of Schiele sometimes but I get Klimt way more often.
Of course the answer to the riddle "what are these sketches for or of?" might just be they are for an art dealer to sell because you can't sell performances.
this is offhand but I see more Max Klinger in your work. dont really see Schiele.
Thanks Cooky that's nice.
these are unerotic, unfleshly... more like drawing exercises. Some nice lines though.
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