7/19/2006

Jonathan Meese

48 comments:

Painter said...

lives and works in Berlin, Germany

painterdog said...

Looks a lot like a Jean-Michel Basquiat
painting.

Blog Warrior said...

His german period?

zipthwung said...

painterdog - maybe cuz basquiat likes german expressionism - just like oh, say, a few rock stars I mentioned.

SOmeone here mentioned that the amount of paint you apply to the canvas or how quickly you apply it does/does not "express" (scare quotes are great huh?) something more/less.

Karel Appel used to "Paint like a barbarian in a barbaric age" to an avant guard jazz soundtrack.

My argument is that Molly Hatchet album covers, for some people, are just as expressive as german expressionism.

Dilema, horns, beg the question, dig it. Billy Childish anyone?

But I do like this painting more than Frazetta, if anyone is asking. I think it is more expressive in hte sense of Kantian esthetics where its all in your mind or whatever.

zipthwung said...

Catalytic, cathartic, something like that.

PS said...

Don't hate-- explicate!

"Jonathan Meese is a champion of the lost cause. His personal interests reverberate throughout his paintings: comic books, horror films, medieval crusades and outsider art merge into a compendium of morality and epic failure. In his paintings, clear-cut roles of good vs. evil are confused, ironic propaganda is served up with homebrew conviction, and malevolent knaves become heroes of the disenfranchised. In Der Suppenpharao, Meese invents a protagonist of questionable intent. Based on Zardoz’s savage executioner, his masked gladiator-cum-superman stars in a poster-like composition, brimming with promise of pulp fiction drama. Meese incorporates himself into his fantasy, as a tribe of snout-nosed nymphs approving the impending carnage."

From the Saatchi website.

I like his sculpture. The paintings feel like a put-on to me. Not scary. Is anyone scared?

closeuup said...

the world is a vampire, sent to drain
secret destroyers, hold you up to the flames
and what do I get, for my pain
betrayed desires, and a piece of the game
even though I know-I suppose I'll show
all my cool and cold-like old job

despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage

Blog Warrior said...

And yet again Saatchi ruins an artist for me.

zipthwung said...

Re: "Hes obviously fascinated by [and] exploring this specific aesthetic."

Meese: The artist is not obligated to do anything; it cannot be forced. The artist is a wanderer, juggler, hobgoblin, a tyrant of the matter, natural and political philosopher. An artist must inevitably survive in every medium. The artist is unpredictable and outlawed.

You are what you eat. I think Jonathan Meese is a Nazi, and should be prosecuted under German law as such. John Bock too.

"The court, called the Bundesgerichtshof, issued a ruling on Tuesday that overturned a lower court ruling, and found that German law applies even to foreigners who post content on the Web in other countries -- so long as that content can be accessed by people inside of Germany.


Specifically, the court found Australian Holocaust-denier Frederick Töben guilty of spreading "Auschwitz lies."

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,40669,00.html

millerhuggins said...

Baby your a lost cause...When Beck did Sea Changes it was through Gordon Lightfoot's influence not a period re-creation---it's just so close this painting..it's good painting...I don't know anymore...the Saatchi promo sounds interesting, but in my opinion it's not in the work, I wish more of it was... visually. Guston plugs in much better to the promo

Picasso, Beckmann, Anselm, Julian, Basquiat...and a dash of Ofilli. I imagine if there were a ton of these packed into a gallery it would resonate...but the lone jpeg? This work speaks to me of Picasso...that touch is genius, the sensibility, unerring taste, that sensitive, inevitable painterly touch. The historical style previously a deconstruction pose now seems to be a way to offer up nice painterly moments?

zipthwung said...

We've all been used.
And reused.
And abused.
And amused!
We want to do die.
What's the trick?

millerhuggins said...

paint like an egytian, walk like a german, or is that the other way around?

closeuup said...

The trick is grace. I dont know I dont have it.

I was talking to a friend about celebrities and she said that one day she was on the elevator of her building with her friend and the door opens and who should get on but Sean Connery. She said that their mouths both dropped open and they kinda fell against the back of the elevator at his presence. He pushed the button for his floor, smiled just like james Bond at them and said "Ladies Lingerie?"

Zardoz.

millerhuggins said...

Maybe grace can be learned in painting... look at Mr. Alex Katz... those fifties, early sixties works are hideous...he more than anyone else exemplifies dogged determination to be important. His clear self criticism allowed him to filter out gradually all that was in his way. Not one natural gift, seemingly. Good taste mixed with an athletes model of performance. That said...I imagine Katz could have delivered the elavator line well, while he was making those fifties paintings... so maybe he always had it.

JpegCritic said...

Don't hate-- masturbate!

poppy said...

its nessy
with pine needle pubes
ouch

zipthwung said...

Well if you like this uyoull like spero/golub right? WHy not? Too heavy haqnded? Not ironic enough? Not heavey handed enough? Too ironic?

Sometimes you say the right thing at the right time, and its like magic. Othertimes people just look at you weird and wonder what your problem is.

no-where-man said...

i am scared of everything on that site done with "Oil and Inkjet Print" it is y people hate digital Art, ick. makes me think that the "style" of his paintings is a mask for a lack of content much unlike Jean-Michel Basquiat

zipthwung said...

arbeit macht frei

kalm james said...

I saw this cat’s work at Koenig a couple of years ago. Thought then that it looked like a rehash of sooooo much eighties Neo-Exer’s painting with the Nazi parody or satire thrown in for cleverness. Though I did like the urgency and directness of the paint handling, the palette of mostly earth tones left something to be desired. I’d say that trying to prosecute him under German “anti-Nazi” laws might be a stretch, but it would be the best publicity coupe he could bream of. There is an admirable quality in the way the Germans are able to keep repackaging the same wine in new bottles and we (the painting world’s cognoscenti) keep falling for it. Nobody would cut you any slack if you were still trying to resurrect the “10th Street School” or Abstract Expressionism. Caught the Rosa Loy show, interesting, all the paintings were casein on canvas, thought the small pieces came off better, something about the size of the brush strokes in relation to the image size. Clearly riffing on Neo though.

cha said...

Lotta content! where do we start/ end!
oh and I love Golub.........

closeuup said...

Erica burned wassup rockers for me--so Im going to stay up late tonight and watch it.

14 yr old kid, was in my daughters class last year, gunned down in oakland 2 weeks ago. Shot 3 times in the back as he ran for his life the paper said. Case of mistaken identity. Heartbreaker.

millerhuggins said...

I'm pro-tenth street revival... content is a glimpse and Pro-Alex Katz no content, high style and refinement. Golub...the big bad wolf.

kelli said...

Kalm James I can think of quite a few Americans currently reheating Ab Ex leftovers which passed their sell-by date a while ago. I'm especially baffled by the chicks who think inhabiting a corpse is macho. But I guess there is a good argument for necrophilia in art. A dead body is the only body you can be alone with.

kelli said...

rhymes with Same(y) Bill(Kooning)man

chicomacho said...
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chicomacho said...

another artist where the art rhetoric wheel tries to imply importance to obvious shit

millerhuggins said...

Last time I checked... inhabiting a corpse is macho.

zipthwung said...

Wassup rockers is sort of like Art School Confidential - episodic but nice episodes. No filler like in hollywood. The cop busting the kids coulda been tighter but it looks natural, so its cool.

The backyard parties are good - the "fashion world" hipsters are pretty on.

kelli said...

In Child of God it is depicted as erotic for imbecilic half-wits. But I guess dead skin is still skin. I have cultural not biological loyalties and I have no real reason not to state the obvious.

closeuup said...

Yeah you stated the obvious--in rhyme. Amy Silliman. Whoooo there. I said it.

What is worth reviving from AE is the spontaneous process. And the search for freedom. That still means something to me. After all the rhymes are rhymed. And all the history is written. And all the corpses have risen.

kelli said...

Some of these zombies want to drag the living into the crypt of bigoted Roussean cultural feminism to dwell with them. Maybe there is no more blood to suck from Pollack. Or the blood alcohol content is too high.

zipthwung said...

im terrible with names but i was thinking AS all the same. I like games because they use my brains.

look at this poor kid harlequin ichtheosis

ow.

chicomacho said...

i usually equate awesome artists as the ones who still sign their name on the front, hence

no-where-man said...

leo koenig? so its the baselitz connection - maybe a genuine enjoyment, keeping the blood line going. What content am i missing? they read as very cliche?

poppy said...

it seems like such a current and easy up to date thing to say somethings been done... thats been done to death - no risk in saying that, plus you sound like you know what your talking about.. If so many people have it figured out then show me what we're all missing.. I guarantee it only takes one person to revive something in the right way and we will always be biting our toungues in the art world..

painterdog said...

He kind of looks like an evil Beavis.

beadelog said...

Freedom is just an ab ex word for nuthin left to lose, oh and brushy paint too.

kalm james said...

I’m not saying that you can’t use the mannerisms of the past to create new paradigms, but the observers have to be in on the game to appreciate the trope. There’s a certain Wagnerian bombast that the Europeans seem to enjoy for its shear familiarity. New Yorkers, as denizens of the “Fashion capital of the world” seem obsessed with novelty, in all its superficiality. Maybe we should see just how deep we can dig into the surface. I love the history of the NY art scene and all its permutations, even the predilections and biases that limit our abilities to “see” other things. History will solve the mystery.

painterdog said...

Evil Beavis with a sock puppet...

painterdog said...

Übl Beavis mit einer Sockenpuppe

cha said...

Great white teeth!
... bad camp, creepy fingers, a strange handbag?
what's the sock puppet saying?

no-where-man said...

kiss me roberta smith

zipthwung said...

I like the social "Jean Jaques" Contract angle - if you look at the Zardoz reference - its the classic ubermench/pocket calculator-with-a-heart thing - he who must make a beast of himself is still a man, even though he maketh like unto a beast.

The Nazis were different than you or I, being demons posessed by evil. Theres a movie called "The Keep" I think that explains that whole mythic dealio. Thats why we must agree to the Homeland Security measures and nail crucifixes to our doors, walls, and eyes.

Rousseau said we must give up some freedom to the buraucracy in order to have benefits like checking accounts, which are important because you dont want your money stolen.

Thats what the social contract does for you.

Jonathan Meese is saying, here, "hey, fuck your social contract," thus reifying the sentiments of our forefather, James Otis.

"Taxation without Representation is Tyranny"

he said, they say.

So I say unto you - bring crackers and a soft cheeses.

cha said...

so Zip, it's not just about sex........

zipthwung said...

donuts

painterdog said...

The sock puppet is saying "Junge jener Betty ist Boop ein Gericht!"

adam williams said...

I don't really see how a style if properly executed to make ones' point can be considered part of a nifty little sell by date trend that most artists would oppose. How can Mattise or Picasso be out of date? Or expressionism? What's left after all that Classicism? Social Realism? are we all going to allow ourselves to be "repackaged"?

I mean this guy does what he does and he does it well. I love Jonathan Meese's rehashment of Basquiat. I think it's more euro centric than you think and so was Basquiat... but I won't get into that.

I think strong work... his absurdist performance will change over time....

adam