9/20/2006

Robert Feintuch

48 comments:

Painter said...

Robert Feintuch
CRG Gallery
535 West 22nd Street
New York, NY 10011

zipthwung said...

boring

zipthwung said...

But its got a good tonal range. Hows the surface?

Cross said...

For me, too many unresolved areas. This one would be handled well by black and white photography. Sometimes the medium is the message, but this is the wrong medium I think, so the message (content) gets lost.

closeuup said...

There's a frission (or humor) between the observation and technical mastery and the existential desperation that photography can't make.

zipthwung said...

here

AA XXX

zipthwung said...

or here

closeuup said...

OK yeah its pretty dreary. A lot like the picture of the woman with the holbein towel wrapped around her head from a few months back. Its pretty NPR, isnt it?

I-ll watch the Andy doc tonight. Is Ric Burns the guy that did the baseball doc? Andy and Baseball. HAAA. Im not expecting much. I know NWM hates this movie, but I thought "who shot andy warhol" by Mary Harron was really on point in its depiction on Andy and the scene.

kelli said...

Hey Closeup I know the artist you are talking about from a few months back. Jpegs do not do her justice. Few people have that level of skill and concentration.
This whole school of painting has real limitations though. Drawing and painting from Greek statuary ripped out of it's cultural context and missing it's original painted on colors- the academy is a pretty odd tradition and always has been . Just as an aside a lot of people feel an artist working academically William Bailey was a big influence on John Currin. If people google them both and compare it might interest them.

zipthwung said...

history repeated as tepid farce....is what I was reading about.

painterdog said...

no, Ken Burns did the Baseball documentry, and the one on jazz.

painterdog said...

William Bailey is a good painter.

Not great, in the sense of say Chardin but real good.

Cooky Blaha said...

fuck it...

poppy said...

I'm curious about the limitations of drawing and painting from greek statues.
i recently ripped off a head that was appropriated by one of the metaphisical painters, but i don't feel like i missed out on something by doing this.. I think if someone is going to learn some traditional academicism its as good a way as any, isn't it? I believe some painters don't care about past cultural contexts or trying to serve current trends but does that mean they are deprived in some way or are we?

kelli said...

Drawing from sculptural fragments informs a way a lot of academic painting looks. Look at the truncated limbs and alabaster modeling in this painting. If you've ever been to Pompeii or Naples a lot of the original stuff was really smutty but academic paintings of the figure often have this once removed out of context distance.
No-Where the Warhol documentary is making me sad. Prince Mishkin. And how does somebody shoot a man who only likes women 5 minutes after he compliments how nice you look that day.

zipthwung said...

Yeah, I had to get some ice cream. pretty depressing so far. Plenty of hyperbole though!

Apparently warhol was an GENIUS draftsman and colorist - funny how non drawers allways say stuff like that.

Cooky Blaha said...

not for nothing he did have genius as a drafstman.
look at the book Andy Warhol:Men (at Strand) for some of the most beautiful depictions of pubes ever. I couldnt find any of the images online though..

no-where-man said...

disco logic.

lookin forward too

ANDY WARHOL

EXHIBITION: Cast a Cold Eye: The Late Works of Andy Warhol
BIOGRAPHY
DATE: Oct 21 - Dec 22, 2006

kalm james said...

Rick Burns is pretty good generally, but this film is an affront to everything Warhol stood for. First off it should only be 15 minutes long, have no in depth back ground, and only focus on all the cash the guy was making. Also they should have digitally reconfigured poor Andy’s face so it looked as beautiful as he would have wanted it.

He was a solid draftsman but his early stuff barrowed a lot of his line style from Ben Shahn who was one of the popular graphic and fine artists of the early 50s. His color sense is great, much better than Stella's Seems he was a manic worker when he was in the groove. I used to see him walking on 5th Ave. or Lexington, below Midtown, couldn’t miss him.

no-where, where's the Cold Eye show?

no-where-man said...

andy drawings artnet

i like this one

no-where-man said...

oh show is at gagosian, who also was involved with that doc.

this is my fav warhol fan site

the DIA was my fav. show, best for his drawings was at Corcoran Gallery

no-where-man said...

the "15 mins of fame" was NOT his original quote - any more then his last name was warhol both are media misprints (which andy loved to work up) and are nodded to in this doc.

kelli said...

It at least touched on the gentleness behind the glamour in the person and the work.The death and disaster paintings, friendship with his mother, pardoning Solanas, habit of going to Mass, the fact that he was the only person not a total asswipe to Basquiat. There is some other story there. Cold eye? Not sure.

no-where-man said...

an Artist goes threw many stages in a long life like warhols - and has many periods.

i think if the second part of the title "The Late Works" is any indicator it refers to the "after shot" work which is post factory - commissioned portraits maybe? not sure but if you look at the names on credits, and spin of doc. part II (which i think is pretty spot on) i can see where it is a nice package, sorry i will digress now as this is doing no justace to the work of Feintuch of whom i can loosely see the motive to compare to the Warhol boys but not so much.

i do like where the Doc. shows Sleep as the apex of these works.

JpegCritic said...

Sleep as effigy, the conquerer of death.
Remembering Narcissus and Goldmund.
Ahhh. Levees along the Lethe.
Suspension. As in empire.
Funny how the suspension reverberates in Hirst.

Unrelated: Hickey's a rocker man.

JpegCritic said...

oh and um i was talking about
warhol, not feign-touch.

something similar between two artists
-- about inferiority complexes, i intuit.
One must be of the inferior sort
if one resorts to calling acrylic "polymer emulsion".

JpegCritic said...

know i promised not to be mean.
but warhol's complex didn't diminish
his greatness, did it? naw.

so there.

JpegCritic said...

feign-touch. Perhaps it's a keeper.
Like warhol(-a).

JpegCritic said...

emphasis on the minus-sign.
Like the castration above.
Like most of feign's work.
Back to the struggle and the
story of whether one must
castrate himself -- the to-be-or-not-to-be--
for the greater glory of the aesthetic
in feign's and Hesse's sake --
the glory of the ascetic --
.

JpegCritic said...

Or is that an orange rubber? Naw.
rubber have never looked so good
in emulsion.

Anyway, this minus sign, this
inverse-gaze as illustrated above--
It has the element's of Sartre's shame,
but lacks the i-want-to-be-there
aspect of zipthwung's rendition
of staring at a woman's shoes
as they travel from brooklyn to manhattan.

JpegCritic said...

but i only wish the image
above had some connection
to my blabber below it.
pictorially, the centrality
and the midst-of-action
pose relegates the image
to the realm of study rather
than communication.

Cut off the fuckin hands --
(cut off to mid forearem!)
and there.... you've got a painting.

SisterRye said...

I agree jpegcritic. It looks better truncated and with no hands.

JpegCritic said...

How's that for a fantasy about two hands.

cha said...

jpeg.... good idea, 2 better paintings from one!

brent hallard said...

I'll back Jpeg, sisterrye, and cha--truncated, no hands or elbow--I see a frog Gargoyle--hands the eyes, the dark patch in the middle a mouth, out of which comes this large tongue--a nice tongue, let it be known, but should it be there? I'm not in charge of these things--Feintuch is--lovingly painted!

painterdog said...

The Warhol documentry the claim that Warhol was the most influencial or important artist of the 20 century I think they forgot about Picasso, Matisse,
Duchamp.

The drawing crack was kind of funny.
He drew like so many illustators from that period.

His talent was ambition, and knowing how to market himself.

He was always a designer.

no-where-man said...

i would say foreskin before rubber,

Hickey rocks my world!

Warhols "complex" was his greatness, as an illustrator he developed the "blotted line tech" which is what made 'raggedy andy' so unique, and led to the rest of his understanding of multiples. - (and the unique "softness" of the pubes")
but sleep however - now thats compulsion exemplified.



Commute to Manhattan from Brooklyn.. anytime u want to watch. 8:12, my place, - day-jobs. not just for fantasy anymore!

kalm james said...

Warhol was an anomaly in the art world, classic passive aggressive. How else can you explain the fact that rarity should increase the value of something but in Andy’s case he (and his numerous assistants) cranked tons and tons of product yet the mere quantity of it seems to have increased its value. His use of the photo and silkscreen technique virtually eliminated and sign of touch, the mark supposedly of “real art” (not reproductions). His selection of the most banal of imagery should have produced boredom but instead induced fascination. As a painter you should hate what he did (except for his design and color sense) yet you can’t help but love the stuff. The wana-bes like Koons et.al. just can’t play on the same field.

P-Dog Picasso, Matisse, Duchamp, see any connection? Warhol was still part of America’s revolt against the School of Paris.

He was still young when he died, compared to the likes of Matisse and Picasso. The story of his last stay in the hospital is a real tragedy.

Seems he launched the careers of a whole cadre of theoretical critics who have mad hefty academic careers out of analyzing and extrapolating his intended meanings. One not so good result.

tomas said...

I saw this show yesterday and liked it a lot. To me, most of what it is being attacked for here, is what makes it strong. Fientuch’s resume says he is in his 50’s and the show is all self-portraits.

Maybe its because I’m not a kid but I see meaning in a guy his age turning his back on us, hiding his face and painting himself distanced or vanishing.

On the castration thing: I see it in the painting here, maybe something about failure. But if you see the show or check out the work on CRG’s website you’ll see that Fientuch shows himself carrying a big club too.

exu said...

I get the failure thing,but it makes for arid veiwing-seems more verbally oriented

tomas said...

That orange and the skin don't seem verbal to me.

painterdog said...

kalm james your right on that point, the abstract expressionist firmly put New York on the map and changed that dymnamic.

Picasso of course was not French, and I think his work was somewhat influenced by Cezanne, it retained his Spanish idenity.

Warhol and his fellow "pop artist" then became an answer to the ab-ex's, art history 101.

Its interesting how the ab-ex's where for the most part white heterosexual men and when we look at the early pop artist, Warhol, Rauschenberg, and Jasper Johns
they were gay men.

Not sure what this means, but its interesting how the sexual pollitics of each group of artist is in play during this time.

exu said...

the oeuvre as a whole,has a literary and rueful cast-Its rally trying to say something about his condition,more than any artistic statement-

tomas said...

I feel the same way exu, though maybe because I am near his age, it seems to be about more than his condition alone.

And the older I get the less artistic statements mean to me.

poppy said...

Andys genius wasn't his inherent skills as a draftsman. (who am i responding to?) This is comparing apples and oranges. Otherwise it would read Picasso Wow!, Matisse Wow! Warhol Wow!, in a neat, tidy line. Andy was already an artist while working commercially. Not alot of people recognised this and it speaks volumes, especially in the way we are still able to misrepresent, misjudge and not comprehend past genius. Average people end up doing the labelling and 'artist' is one that too many get tagged with. Most have the ability to mimic. The above aspiring artist has the ability to mimic one thing, compostition not being one of those things. The genius, in this case the artist genius, experiences the world in a unique way. Andy was able to influnce mass culture. Because he was a master of art we felt the effects of genius.

tomas said...

Someone on an earlier post wondered if quiet work like Morandi could get noticed now. Might want to take another look at Fientuch.

NNCGT said...

reminds me of arikha, but looks better painted. a but like an art school exercise though

tomas said...

NNCGT- go to CRG's website and look at the other work. Nothing to do with arikha or artschool.