Its a weak statement to make, but a lot of the work posted recently seems to be 2nd tier, which is completely elitist to say..... Still, why not post the Ruyter show or the Henneken at Andrew kreps. Not to say that those shows are that good, but I'm sure they would spark more interesting conversations than some of the more conservative works posted here lately. blah blah blah
I too tend to enjoy something that is a bit more expansive for lack of a better term however I sure do see a lot of stuff out there that is of the "make it big and paint it red" school. oops...I guess that would refer to 3rd generation moderism. I think to be more accurate I should say the "make it big and put a penis on it" school. Anyway, I think there is something nice about the quietness of this painting and the painting from yesterday. These are very internal paintings even though they are represntaions of the natural outside world. I would say these paintings are ironicly more demanding to the viewer in many ways because they take time to settle in. The intent of these paintings are not to hit the viewer over the head with a bat.
This doesn't do anything for me. What is the deal with the bubbles coming out of the trees? They simply look like an add-on to make the piece "different". I would love to know the reasoning behind them.
There is a really creepy one called creeper in the show. I find these really unsettling. They are the moment in a scary movie that goes on to long before the violence starts.
my problem with the work is that there is too much in there, a little abstraction, figuration, surrealism, realism etc. its like something for everyone, which almost makes them immune to criticism, a bit too of the moment for me, also looks like a lot of grad school painting that i see in the more professional art schools, so competant, polished, ultimately boring because its all in there.
I think these paintings are incredibly beautiful. They are very personal statements about place and a heightened psychological state. Actually, what I just said does not do them justice. They are deftly painted, expressive and intelligent--three things I think are so often lacking in the work that is out there right now. These DO NOT look like grad school work at all. They are simply dazzling and acomplished paintings that I love spending time with and thinking about.
yeah, this is a really good show. the paintings are a slow burn... you think you know the subject matter but it keeps morphing and shifting between real and fantasy... they're not static images at all. the scale is really nice, too. there are two small ones that really kick.
This painting reminded me of a show at Andrea Rosen - EXPLORING LANDSCAPE: EIGHT VIEWS FROM BRITAIN
Probably because of the orange and it's compliment, blue. I love that combo. Was real popular in my undergrad. I couldn't get enough of it. Kind of a fifties STYLE thing, too.
Grad school - If you are looking for a good school, why not try somewhere abroad? At least you will get to travel.
Choose the school based on the INDIVIDUAL(S) you wish to study under. FOr example, hard edged abstractionists or academic funk art, or the theory heads/art historians that are there, if thats your thing.
Do your homework - like right now, what are you interested in learning?
Who do you want to be today? Who do you want to be? Boing.
You could take a class from Donald Kuspit or something.
There are some good curators (the people you want to meet and greet within ten feet) that are under the radar - look for artists you like and look to see who is putting those artists in shows.
the rocks continue into the sky, but get represented differently. instead of flat black silouette, they are flat, as if underwater.
it's interesting, how the black silouetted rocks at bottom have perspective. they are in a place of contradiction, both flat and real in space at once. the rocks at top seem more 'real,' but perhaps are only illusion?
doe anyone on this blog like having formal conversations about art?
zipthwung - i appreciate your grad school reply. part of me just feels like grad school is a game even though i want to pursue it. i think it's hard to figure out who's the right person out there. and the right program.
albinoradio1 - i'm always up for a good formal art conversation.
zipthwung - i appreciate your grad school reply. part of me just feels like grad school is a game even though i want to pursue it. i think it's hard to figure out who's the right person out there. and the right program.
albinoradio1 - i'm always up for a good formal art conversation.
Deli-slicer, you hit the mark! Triple Diesel, I like your comparison, but I would throw in deep & mysterious space, more illusionistic than Burchfield or Hopper, more uncanny.
I highly recommend viewing this work in person; they're meditative and luminous, really surprising and beautiful and alive. It's refreshing to see painting that's cared-about and genuine, & doesn't hide behind archness or quotation.
This is a really strong show. There is commitment and maturity in this work. Jennifer constantly pushes her work to new levels and is not satisfied with the the easy answer or the quick finish. Some of these paintings took years to finish. (the layers and intricacies you can't see in a Jpeg.) The paintings were built over time, but they don't look arduous or over worked. She is fearless when she needs to paint out portions that took months in the making. You can see the artist's hand in these paintings. Every quivering mark seems to matter. And the paintings are rewarding close up as well as from a distance. All the little details build up to form the composition. Beautiful!
I can't wait to see this show! From the look of the JPEGs here and on Edward Winkleman's site, plus most of the comments here, I think these are some of the paintings I've been looking for. Metaphysical, direct (as opposed to the endless ironic quotation that is so much of modern painting), deep, complex without being busy, and just plain beautiful. An enormous inspiration.
these works feel queasy,a little toxic-and sort of pretty at the same time-am not sure why they are being raved about,they are ok-trying to say too many things at once,perhaps-
interesting comments. ...i was just going to write "nice painting" but i guess that's just soooo 2nd tier, lowbrow and uneducated to say. some of you people are just so esoteric about art. get a life.
Cheers carol es; BUT Frankly at the show, I find all her observations lack character and becomes decorative... BUT if you're into that; what the hell...
Other pieces from this show seem richer and less limited by specific associations with representation. "Grotto" and "Softwall" were particularly suggestive and still ambigous. They paint handling seems (on the screen) subtle and deft. The compositions are dramatic, desceptively simple. My only misgiving is that they suggest Star Trek scenes in some way that I find disturbing.
But I don't think she is "observing" anything. She is making it up as she goes along - the painterly decisions are odd, nonsensical. Decoration morphs into uncanny spookiness. These are much more complex than they seem at first - they make me queasy in a good way.
One point made about the stones continuing into the sky - is that this creates two different perspectives - the side on and the top down, in my mind. A common "trick" although "sophisticated" and maybe thats not it at all, although it works for me, here.
If that's not clear, look at the www.psyop.tv Bombay Saphire(TM) gin commercial, which resembles an animated oriental scroll, and frequently makes this spatial shift. The cheesey guitar is nice, too - Eliot smith esque.
If you like that sort of surreal spatial shift thing. I've been there done that. If its new to you dont let my jaded ennui disourage you from doing it, too. Maybe you could make some money or something.
Carol Es, if you find these people 'esoteric', then you might want to get a high school education. Here's my copy of 'Huckleberry Finn'. Enjoy, and feel free to email me when you run across an 'esoteric' word.
I like Coates... when I see the jpegs of details from the paintings. The whole paintings are just more overworked 'Yes' covers for the twenty-first century. But Chelsea seems to have an unquenchable appetite for that stuff, so... good for her?
Scrolling down this month's worth of PNYC blog... I have to wonder. Is painting really this lame, or Does Painter simply have really, really bad taste in painters? I mean jeez... I saw more variety at the Columbia MFA show... barely.
Whatever the reason, I'll bet the next entry is a highly pictorial, possibly glaze-happy maximalist. Possibly featuring some sort of grotesque humanoid. Fifty bucks.
"Whatever the reason, I'll bet the next entry is a highly pictorial, possibly glaze-happy maximalist. Possibly featuring some sort of grotesque humanoid. Fifty bucks"
Prof. Mouth,
I assume you are refering to paintings posted on this blog but perhaps not. Could you please list the artists that you have seen that fit your description.
PM I think it is the galleries that have bad taste. How could all of these paintings be one persons taste? Get real. Painter post a different painter almost everyday. It looks like you owe Painter $50.00
go and see the show in chelsea - take some time and let the paintings unfold. sweeping moments vs sparkly intricacy. these are evocative paintings in every sense - fun to move around in and full of heart while still weird and unsettling at times. i recommend.
hey, no one is falsly piling on here. I know I am new to the blog and for my first entry I didn't have much to say but I really did like the show. I do think it's pretty funny that after calling myself Dirty Girl Chick and making my first post about 20 of you clicked on to my non-blog. Sorry guys no pictures, not yet anyway.
Jennifer Coates definitely has talent. The variation in sizes threw me off though. The obsessive geometric triangles were a wonder to look at. I'll wait til her next show cause anyone with that kind of patience with a painting is at least trying. I'm just not a huge fan of abstraction unless it really sticks out the way Julie Mehretu and Mark Grotjahn's work do.
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Jennifer Coates @
Feigen Contemporary
535 West 20th Street
New York, NY 10011
Its a weak statement to make, but a lot of the work posted recently seems to be 2nd tier, which is completely elitist to say.....
Still, why not post the Ruyter show or the Henneken at Andrew kreps. Not to say that those shows are that good, but I'm sure they would spark more interesting conversations than some of the more conservative works posted here lately.
blah blah blah
I love this work!
I too tend to enjoy something that is a bit more expansive for lack of a better term however I sure do see a lot of stuff out there that is of the "make it big and paint it red" school.
oops...I guess that would refer to 3rd generation moderism. I think to be more accurate I should say the "make it big and put a penis on it" school.
Anyway, I think there is something nice about the quietness of this painting and the painting from yesterday. These are very internal paintings even though they are represntaions of the natural outside world. I would say these paintings are ironicly more demanding to the viewer in many ways because they take time to settle in. The intent of these paintings are not to hit the viewer over the head with a bat.
This doesn't do anything for me. What is the deal with the bubbles coming out of the trees? They simply look like an add-on to make the piece "different". I would love to know the reasoning behind them.
it is like someone superimposed the 2 paintings below. - the look of the times.
There is a really creepy one called creeper in the show. I find these really unsettling. They are the moment in a scary movie that goes on to long before the violence starts.
my problem with the work is that there is too much in there, a little abstraction, figuration, surrealism, realism etc. its like something for everyone, which almost makes them immune to criticism, a bit too of the moment for me, also looks like a lot of grad school painting that i see in the more professional art schools, so competant, polished, ultimately boring because its all in there.
Seems to be made by a thoughtful artist. Very sincere.
I love Coates's paintings - they are
sublime. I see striving and gasping and grappling in these works. They leave me breathless.
I think these paintings are incredibly beautiful. They are very personal statements about place and a heightened psychological state. Actually, what I just said does not do them justice. They are deftly painted, expressive and intelligent--three things I think are so often lacking in the work that is out there right now. These DO NOT look like grad school work at all. They are simply dazzling and acomplished paintings that I love spending time with and thinking about.
On the grad school topic - Can anyone here recommend a grad school program in NYC that is worth looking into?
Artgirl: Don't do it.
As for this show--it is amazing. A breath of fresh air has arrived in Chelsea, at last.
Congratulations Jennifer Coates!!
this is one of the shows i am excited to come up and see. below are some links to details of the paintings, on barry hoggard's flickr site.
http://flickr.com/photos/bloggy/144831342/in/photostream/
http://flickr.com/photos/bloggy/144831745/in/photostream/
http://flickr.com/photos/bloggy/144832485/in/photostream/
http://flickr.com/photos/bloggy/144832921/in/photostream/
Thanks Martin!! You are right to be excited about this show.
yeah, this is a really good show. the paintings are a slow burn... you think you know the subject matter but it keeps morphing and shifting between real and fantasy... they're not static images at all. the scale is really nice, too. there are two small ones that really kick.
This painting reminded me of a show at Andrea Rosen - EXPLORING LANDSCAPE: EIGHT VIEWS FROM BRITAIN
Probably because of the orange and it's compliment, blue. I love that combo. Was real popular in my undergrad. I couldn't get enough of it. Kind of a fifties STYLE thing, too.
Grad school - If you are looking for a good school, why not try somewhere abroad? At least you will get to travel.
Choose the school based on the INDIVIDUAL(S) you wish to study under. FOr example, hard edged abstractionists or academic funk art, or the theory heads/art historians that are there, if thats your thing.
Do your homework - like right now, what are you interested in learning?
Who do you want to be today? Who do you want to be? Boing.
You could take a class from Donald Kuspit or something.
There are some good curators (the people you want to meet and greet within ten feet) that are under the radar - look for artists you like and look to see who is putting those artists in shows.
I like this bookcover illustration
the rocks continue into the sky, but get represented differently. instead of flat black silouette, they are flat, as if underwater.
it's interesting, how the black silouetted rocks at bottom have perspective. they are in a place of contradiction, both flat and real in space at once. the rocks at top seem more 'real,' but perhaps are only illusion?
doe anyone on this blog like having formal conversations about art?
i won't expect an answer.
It's like "Railroad Sunset" by Hopper* except with some Burchfield mysticism, except more eerie and spooked than radiant.
*http://home.earthlink.net/~anewcombe/Hopper/railroad_sunset.jpg
zipthwung - i appreciate your grad school reply. part of me just feels like grad school is a game even though i want to pursue it. i think it's hard to figure out who's the right person out there.
and the right program.
albinoradio1 - i'm always up for a good formal art conversation.
zipthwung - i appreciate your grad school reply. part of me just feels like grad school is a game even though i want to pursue it. i think it's hard to figure out who's the right person out there.
and the right program.
albinoradio1 - i'm always up for a good formal art conversation.
Deli-slicer, you hit the mark! Triple Diesel, I like your comparison, but I would throw in deep & mysterious space, more illusionistic than Burchfield or Hopper, more uncanny.
I highly recommend viewing this work in person; they're meditative and luminous, really surprising and beautiful and alive. It's refreshing to see painting that's cared-about and genuine, & doesn't hide behind archness or quotation.
This is a really strong show. There is commitment and maturity in this work. Jennifer constantly pushes her work to new levels and is not satisfied with the the easy answer or the quick finish. Some of these paintings took years to finish. (the layers and intricacies you can't see in a Jpeg.) The paintings were built over time, but they don't look arduous or over worked. She is fearless when she needs to paint out portions that took months in the making. You can see the artist's hand in these paintings. Every quivering mark seems to matter. And the paintings are rewarding close up as well as from a distance. All the little details build up to form the composition. Beautiful!
I can't wait to see this show! From the look of the JPEGs here and on Edward Winkleman's site, plus most of the comments here, I think these are some of the paintings I've been looking for. Metaphysical, direct (as opposed to the endless ironic quotation that is so much of modern painting), deep, complex without being busy, and just plain beautiful. An enormous inspiration.
these works feel queasy,a little toxic-and sort of pretty at the same time-am not sure why they are being raved about,they are ok-trying to say too many things at once,perhaps-
interesting comments. ...i was just going to write "nice painting" but i guess that's just soooo 2nd tier, lowbrow and uneducated to say. some of you people are just so esoteric about art. get a life.
Cheers carol es;
BUT
Frankly at the show, I find all her observations lack character and becomes decorative...
BUT if you're into that; what the hell...
Other pieces from this show seem richer and less limited by specific associations with representation. "Grotto" and "Softwall" were particularly suggestive and still ambigous. They paint handling seems (on the screen) subtle and deft. The compositions are dramatic, desceptively simple. My only misgiving is that they suggest Star Trek scenes in some way that I find disturbing.
But I don't think she is "observing" anything. She is making it up as she goes along - the painterly decisions are odd, nonsensical. Decoration morphs into uncanny spookiness. These are much more complex than they seem at first - they make me queasy in a good way.
Coats kicks ass. She kicks my ass, ouch, I mean mmmmmm. Soft firm kicks.
She makes me want to shoot stuff with soft firm bullets.
Carol Es, this "life" you speak of, where does one get it?
One point made about the stones continuing into the sky - is that this creates two different perspectives - the side on and the top down, in my mind. A common "trick" although "sophisticated" and maybe thats not it at all, although it works for me, here.
If that's not clear, look at the www.psyop.tv Bombay Saphire(TM) gin commercial, which resembles an animated oriental scroll, and frequently makes this spatial shift. The cheesey guitar is nice, too - Eliot smith esque.
If you like that sort of surreal spatial shift thing.
I've been there done that.
If its new to you dont let my jaded ennui disourage you from doing it, too. Maybe you could make some money or something.
here
Carol Es, if you find these people 'esoteric', then you might want to get a high school education. Here's my copy of 'Huckleberry Finn'. Enjoy, and feel free to email me when you run across an 'esoteric' word.
I like Coates... when I see the jpegs of details from the paintings. The whole paintings are just more overworked 'Yes' covers for the twenty-first century. But Chelsea seems to have an unquenchable appetite for that stuff, so... good for her?
Scrolling down this month's worth of PNYC blog... I have to wonder. Is painting really this lame, or Does Painter simply have really, really bad taste in painters? I mean jeez... I saw more variety at the Columbia MFA show... barely.
Whatever the reason, I'll bet the next entry is a highly pictorial, possibly glaze-happy maximalist. Possibly featuring some sort of grotesque humanoid. Fifty bucks.
"Whatever the reason, I'll bet the next entry is a highly pictorial, possibly glaze-happy maximalist. Possibly featuring some sort of grotesque humanoid. Fifty bucks"
Prof. Mouth,
I assume you are refering to paintings posted on this blog but perhaps not. Could you please list the artists that you have seen that fit your description.
PM I think it is the galleries that have bad taste. How could all of these paintings be one persons taste? Get real. Painter post a different painter almost everyday.
It looks like you owe Painter $50.00
go and see the show in chelsea - take some time and let the paintings unfold. sweeping moments vs sparkly intricacy. these are evocative paintings in every sense - fun to move around in and full of heart while still weird and unsettling at times. i recommend.
Holy Shit! This is a great show.
I think the Hoffmann show is great too.
This is indeed a very good show. Check it out.
Did someone stuff the ballot box or what? Do you think no one will notice?
FRAUDS! Im loading my straw with cheeto flavored archival cotton rag spitwads.
hey, no one is falsly piling on here. I know I am new to the blog and for my first entry I didn't have much to say but I really did like the show.
I do think it's pretty funny that after calling myself Dirty Girl Chick and making my first post about 20 of you clicked on to my non-blog. Sorry guys no pictures, not yet anyway.
Jennifer Coates definitely has talent. The variation in sizes threw me off though. The obsessive geometric triangles were a wonder to look at. I'll wait til her next show cause anyone with that kind of patience with a painting is at least trying. I'm just not a huge fan of abstraction unless it really sticks out the way Julie Mehretu and Mark Grotjahn's work do.
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