5/17/2006

Peter Allen Hoffmann

51 comments:

Painter said...

Peter Allen Hoffmann @
Freight + Volume
542 West 24th Street
New York, NY 10011

burrito brother said...

I think being audited would be more fun and than looking at this painting.

GrandmaNelly said...

You must see it in person it is breath taking. Beautifully painted.

I have been audited it is nothing like looking at this work.

oilybrushes said...

how big is it? what medium?

Painter said...

Marked, 2005
84" x 120"
Oil on canvas

artgirl said...

I like this very much. I love the way he handles the space. Very nice.

no-where-man said...

is it me or is chelsea art enjoying a ultra conservative wave, boats clocking $ knots - y rock it?

flesheater99 said...

tres nice with a nod to Schiele

exu said...

his work has integrity-"commons" is nice-maybe they are a little too airy?could use some pinning down?I can't imagine remembering them for long,they are too quiet for that,and our attention spans are crap after all the embroidery of people fucking,etc in candy land...

chicomacho said...

i hate art

Martin said...

it looks very.. i don't know, nabis? something from around that time.

nice to see something without big eyes.

dubz said...

a) snoresville
b) boresville
c) mossy

zipthwung said...

the color is more saturated in the jpg. I like the jpg better. Remember kids, shoot with "hot" slide film!!!!!

The actual painting is nothing much. The gallery is tiny so its hard to see them - they'd look a lot better with more white space around them and an armani clad shithead at the desk, for example.

Conceptually I Imagined these were composed through chance somehow - like drawing around coffee stains - somethin I do at my desk sometimes....

bsch said...

Looks like an unresolved fit between naturalism, color field and patterning. Since I'm seeing this from afar I can't judge in detail or compare to this artist's other work. It seems to lack an edge.
Painter, thanks for posting these works. Another painter from the Texas twilight zone appreciates it.
Keep up the good work.

chris moss said...

WW is mossy a bad thing?

JasperJanx said...

I doubt WW is against moss. Just this artist.

dubz said...

i'm not against the artist, i just think this painting is boring...doesn't seem to add to any dialogue i can think of. i googled him and he's got some better ones... wait, holy crap!---hunter MFA? i figured this dude must be around 79 years old, but he was BORN in '79.

do the kids need more drugs? fewer books?

no-where-man said...

hey! i love books. - 2 years my age... they need the right books.

bada said...

nice to see something without big eyes.

I definitely agree. *chuckle*

wait, holy crap!---hunter MFA? i figured this dude must be around 79 years old, but he was BORN in '79.

that is tooooooo funny...it is interesting, almost refreshing(?) that someone around that age would be interested in making paintings like this... I've met good people from that school... it does change my view of the painting, must admit.

wade said...

I like this painting. I mean, does one wanna listen to punk rock or 80s glam all the time... I don't think so. A little Debussy or some cello is a nice relief now and then.

Think it would do well on a smaller scale but haven't seen it in person.

Bunko Boy said...

It is interesting that most of the comments relate to the "conservative" look of this painting. I don't see it that way. First of all, the example posted looks like a pretty interesting take on landscape. This artist is not trying too hard to be outrageous or wacky. I see a very genuine and subtle connection Hoffman has with his subject and therefor I see a unique vision here.

no-where-man said...

"punk rock or 80s glam all the time..."

i kinda do, when your really into something it is all you can do. . . obesseion is an illness.

perhaps traditional or safe, is a better term then conservative, which has as much to do with time and place that the mind of the Artworld is in at the time, - certainly this work is not radical for now where as when john currin broke, he was.

zipthwung said...

do the kids need more drugs? fewer books?

More drugs, better books, replace Debussey with the fashionable Gorecki (NPR crowd) - if you like God Speed You Black Emporer, you will see the correlation.

Read something no one else is reading. Like
this

or this

Over the hills and far away.

kelli said...

zip yanqui u.x.o? + vicodin

prop said...

doesn't seem to add to any dialogue

that seems like an extremely inaffective way of looking at this work. they look very personal, like he's trying to understand how he sees what's around him. completely agree on the french influence, but i think most people who paint like this really don't care how they fit into any dialogue. id like to see his work in a couple more years

closeuup said...

2 coors a vicodin a speedboat and some skynrd

it takes a village

dubz said...

there's definitely a 19th-c. french vibe... but that genre of landscape painting was so experimental in terms of the social implications of landscape (like henri riviere's paysages parisiens for example... the idea of capturing a place as it changes, yet without nostalgic overtones). i just feel like there's a lot to be explored, but these just seem to skim the surface. they feel formal and sentimental rather than experiential. but that's just my opinion.

sorry if i was too blunt earlier. i was feeling lazy.

serena said...

I agree that I would like to see his work in 10 years. This is beautifully done for what it is. Perhaps we can see it as a study, given the painter's age. He seems to have an excellent sense of light, composition and a distinctive, strong gestural hand.

zipthwung said...

Spanish bombs - didnt see the GSYBE album cover but the vibes the same.

Platinum razor blades, slicing up eyeballs, I want you to know.

All creature great and small. Vetted.

MASTER SHITS said...

Wow!!!!!! What a great site this is. I bet all the artists you post, Painter, feel really good after being "featured" for the day. Thank you for championing positivity and constructive criticism. I've learned so much from perusing these threads!!! What a pathetic outlet for disgruntled artists.

zipthwung said...

WOW! YOU sound disgruntled!!!!!

I'm not an artist, I'm a four dimensional cube.

Fuck You and your dis. AND your gruntle. Who gives a rats ass what the artists think? If this isnt constructive I dont know what is. And I took plenty of art lessons.

My favorite lesson is the one where you make a painting you like and then someone (in author ity)tells you it's shit. Then, later, you realize thats what you want to do -
shit.

Speaking of shit check this out:

In the United States, sewage plants produce over 10 million tons of sludge per year, creating a massive waste disposal problem. Spreading sludge on farm fields happens to be the cheapest disposal method available, and WEF and the EPA claim that it is also the most environmentally sound method--that it "recycles" sewage waste by converting it into a valuable resource.

As part of this effort to sell sludge to the public, WEF has even coined a new name for the stuff. "It's not toxic, and we're launching a campaign to get people to stop calling it sludge. We call it 'biosolids,' " says WEF Director of Information Nancy Blatt.

heavy metal thhunder!!!!!

if you know what I mercury! Get the lead out and say something intweresting instead of sniping.
Asshole. Got one? Everybody now! Whats that sound?

bubbletrouble said...

Do you really think you are helping illuminate anything Zipthwung? It seems like you are jacking off to yourself.

closeuup said...

for the record:

positive posts on this artist = 9
negative posts on this artist = 9
posts not directly referencing this artist = 13

im cool with that

kelli said...

I know Painter in passing and he/she puts a lot of effort into selecting the best image for artists. The current healthy art market allows people to be working artists without "networking" to the point of being demeaned. What's to hate? This blog was once an outlet for positive criticism and as there is a dearth of good professional criticism it might be a good idea for artists to form communities of whatever sort. The real estate market in this city is so brutal geographic communities rarely last.

zipthwung said...

jacking off to yourself - Sure.

Might I point out - there is a common ecological thread here (i could steer towards that, personally), if only in the subject matter of lets say many of these works - the landscape and its denizens - to which I allude to, albeit obtusely. I find this (my) mode of dialogue to be more fecund. To each their own.

Buck Hunter dude. Ever play it?
Why is it in so many bars?

Calling people disgruntled is belittling, if not infantilizing, disempowering, alienating and in conclusion, counterproductive and just not the whole picture, in my case. Also - I can be disgruntled, even facist and still have a "constructive" opinion.

If I come across as digruntled - well maybe thats you projecting? I feel like Im jaded, not really disgruntled.

In the previous thread I was taken to task for not providing specifics - but others did provide examples, so, for example, I didn't bring up the idiosyncratic designs of plains indian tipis and clothing decorations (often dream imagery).

But here, with the sludge thing, I am bringing up an example, without telling you "hey, here's an example" because honestly, it might not be. But then again, to me (jacking off) it is as apropos as anything mentioned here, if not moreso. As far as I (me) am concerned. Especially all the laudatory formal comments.

I did go to art school, so I am initiated into many of the codes and conventions of the art conversation, be it conceptual or formal. I do find it hard to use much of the cultural analysis in my own work, to make it part of the process - I think that difficulty gets lost in the lecture series, often.

In the Wangechi Mutu conversation I found personal taste and the lack of definition of terms to be the root cause of the disagreements I had, and defining those terms or defending my tastes didn't hold much interest to me beyond the drift of culture in general (my definition of fashion).

What emerged from that conversation was a definite distaste (not disgruntled, to my mind) for that esthetic, because of many and varied associations pertaining to circ de soleil, kitchy carnival masks, and pattern and decoration as a descriptive (not the ARRRT movement necessarily).

SO in context of a NEW YORK audience, I'm telling you as a NEW YORK audience member, what I (ME) think. Jaded? Maybe I should listen to some Zamphir and try to figure out how I got this way.
Or maybe YOU should be a little more critical, as in THINK. Or is it that people THINK thoo much?

Outside the city it seems like its all "oh that driftwood sculpture is so great" and you cant say shit because its fucking someones gig, man. I mean its how they DEAL man. so then you have to feel all bad because you are so harshing their mellow. And I can dig that, you know? Because it calms me down to make art too, like when I'm really upset its great to just pick up a conte crayon or a shminke, or a rembrandt, or a burnt stick or handmade walnut ink or a mouse and draw a six foot (500,000 pixel) post of whatever it is that is bugging me.

So is this therapy? Or what?

chris moss said...

um. . . wow. . . can we just ignore thread biters? Zip I am constantly amused by your critical responses, and I believe in harsh criticism too. We let a lot of shit fly around here and sometimes you catch it.

but, yes people do think too much.

Buck hunter and easy paintings are fun, for a minute.

prop said...

christ there's a lot of bullshit here

i feel you on that ww. i guess the larger point that i wanted to make is that i don't think it's necessary to always hold someone to crowning achievements or the highest standard. and that smaller, personal accomplishments can be just as fulfilling even though they might not change the way others look or think

zipthwung said...

Im glad someone is having fun with spatial relationships - its one of the seven esthetic pleasures, and I never get tired of it. Never.

EncyclopediaBritannica said...

Aesthetic. A-E-S-T-H-E-T-I-C. Aesthetic. And I thought you were the one who took art lessons. On another note, I think it's a rather weak argument on everyone's part to believe that Painter should have read "better" books, done stronger drugs, and be ten years older. Should he be like you? Better yet, why don't you negate your own perception of reality for just a moment, and focus in on his. You might just learn something if you look long enough.

zipthwung said...

es·thet·ic (s-thtk)
adj. & n.
Variant of aesthetic.

Ever heard of language drift? Witgenstein? Why are you harshing my mellow?

Also - I think painter is doing a great job. I imagine not all of these paintings are being presented as "good" and I like that. I like looking at bad shit - oftem more than "good" shit. Its fun. Im not a mean person, either, so if I hurt your feelings, give me your address and I'll come over and make it all better.
With a meat cleaver.

closeuup said...

that would be great--from what i hear it would be a BIG website

fuckedgallery?

Vlahos Boyiajees said...
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Vlahos Boyiajees said...

I rarely have no reaction to paintings I see but these gave me nothing. Scary. It's like that scene in Twin Peaks:Fire Walk With Me when you see the white horse appear out of nowhere. Is the title of this show "Huh?"

carol es said...

The colors in this painting settle my bad brains, but I don't care for the technique or any other part of it for that matter.

GrandmaNelly said...

It is obvious not a lot of you have seen this work in person. It is beautifully painted. It is simply the best show up right now.

Well I also like the Eisenman show.

Trying to be intelligent but sounding like and ass said...

Congrats Peter on a great show.

El Cynic said...

Could it be that Painter is in cahoots with the aforementioned gallery owner? Why did the post about non-payment of artists suddenly disappear?

Painter said...

El Cynic I don't host personal remarks. I have said that many times before that I will delete them especially if you don't use your real name. Thanks for respecting this.

El Cynic said...

So then, if someone were to say "Gallery X" has a reputation of not paying its artists." - is that allowed since it's not a personal attack, but rather a comment about how a business deals with its vendors?

Brangalina said...

Painter, you should get in cahoots with some of these galleries. Someone should be paying you to put with all this bullshit. Go start your own slander site El Cynic. You sound like the one with bad buisness dealings, going on blogs to air your business gone bad.

El Cynic said...

Brangalina, I haven't slandered anyone or posted any bad business dealings or business gone bad. (Please see above). I just asked two questions - I'm curious about the rules here, I don't spend much time on blogs. It appears that Rule #1 is be a jerk to everyone as much as possible since everyone is anonymous.