6/09/2006

Julia Weck

58 comments:

Painter said...

Julia Weck @
Moti Hasson Gallery
330 West 38th St. Suite 211
New York, NY 10018

burrito brother said...

What was that movie with Rob Lowe and that guy from Pretty in Pink where Rob is like the bad friend who's always talking the other guy into crazy hijinks? I think he ends up killing Rob Lowe at the end. Earlier though, there's a scene where they both put on creepy kids masks (a fox and a rabbit i think) and kidnap the other guys boss and beat the living shit out of him, humbling him into submission back at the office. It's kind of been a fantasy of mine at pretty much every job I've ever had...

ad3pt said...

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JD said...

Semi-disturbing imagery, painted like a cheap illustrator.

Just awful.

no-where-man said...

Bad Influence

dubz said...

really heavy-handed. what are her other images like? same stuff? it's just so... obvious. the adidas are particularly troubling.

bb, was that a rob lowe/james spader number? is it the one where they tie the boss up in the chair and torture him for days?

zipthwung said...

The chick that was getting all that press in the last whitney biennial (2004) for the painting combining stain painting with dabs of texture? Laura Owensish.

This sort of meets the lady that makes the stain painted waterfalls, Pat Steir, with Japanese Manga with a nod to advertising style nailed down via addidas. THis would make a good shoe advertisement in a Male Interest magazine or whatever. Stuff. It.

Not weird enough.

It reminds me of a high school friend of mine that was a good artist who never went to art school so he never got sophisticated and insrtead got his girlfriend pregnant and dropped out of college. Wonder what happened to him.

burrito brother said...

maybe it is james spader! i thought it was andrew mccarthy(?) either way it was extremely satisfying, as are most rob lowe movies (what about that ice hockey movie? hot!)

zipthwung said...

Ranger Rick.

zipthwung said...

Youngblood - Cynthia Gibb was hot. Saw it on cable before a debate tournament. Yeah, I'm a nerd.

epilepticadam said...

JD:
this wouldn't even cut it in illustration as far as being published...
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epilepticadam said...

...and actually paid for it...
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painterdog said...
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epilepticadam said...

...agreed;
as well as the Clayton Brothers and others...

and historically:
Andy Warhol, Rauschenberg, DeKooning, Jasper Johns, etc... all were commercial artists&painters...and were excellent at both
...many more to list who dabble in both...

this woman gives illustration a bad name; she is a bad fine artist...

painterdog said...

this really is bad art.
what is it? masked man stalking?
guest of michael jackson?

if you want wierd and good check out mark ryden.

epilepticadam said...

hey,
why were jeffrey freedner's posts taken down?
he had a good point...
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painterdog said...

she is a bad arstist, but what difference does that make, the art world is full of people like this.

painterdog said...

the auther took them down because he did not want his name on the blog, but it did not work.

painterdog said...

or jeff soto, todd schorr, or the La Luz de Jesus Gallery if your into this kind of thing.
funny Mark Ryden had a show a few years back in NYC he got a bad review by the NY times. I don't rember her name, the critic but she just did not get his ascetic.

epilepticadam said...

...at times people (in this blog) describe bad fine art as illustration when there is some excellent illustration, as well as extremely bad illustration, out there...

and as you, painterdog, stated 'the artworld is full of people like this' ...'badness' is everywhere in the the fine arts and illustration...


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chicomacho said...

i don't get all these comments, is this chick trying to be an illustrator? I just looked at the website, paintings aren't that bad, they look like a thousand other 'realistic' type painters showing in NYC though. Don't love them, but don't hate them, she can obviously apply paint in a rendered way fairly well from the images. This chick is from Germany and studied under Neo Rauch.

JD said...

There certainly is lots of excellent illustration out there, but this isn't excellent illustration.

epilepticadam said...

chicomacho.

does realism equate illustration?

looking at the gallery website, there is no way she could make it in illustration because she would immediately be replaced by photography.

her subject matter may only get into tiny commercial venues or otherwise it would be considered gallery work...

she wouldn't cut it as an illustrator; she is a mediocre, uncreative bad fine artist.
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epilepticadam said...

...and would be a crappy illustrator...
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chicomacho said...

hey, i never said she was an illustrator, i'm just commenting on the comments above. What I meant was, i don't think she is trying to be an illustrator (which the comments above seem to be pushing at) I think she is obviously just an artist who likes to use paint to make pictures. Got to see them in real life to determine if she is a 'painter' or not.

epilepticadam said...

chicomacho

... i think i will go to the gallery to see if she is an "artist' or not ... that is, to see if there is some sort of 'vision' she is pushing that i can't get a sense of on the website...

if she uses paint of any sort then she is a painter as far as i am concerned (how good is another question). the question for me is whether she is an artist first and then see if she has any virtuosity in her brushwork (whether applied flat or heavy) that you can't see on a jpeg...

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chicomacho said...

yeah, i can agree with that...

this is a whole other debate, but for me, there are people who use paint to make work and then there are painters.

epilepticadam said...

chicomacho,

in that case I believe you are equating painter with artist; that is, someone with a vision...

painters work in all fields in the arts ; therefore that is why i recognize all sorts of people as painter; whether they are artists is the question for me...

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Burgerder said...

i'm embarrassed that i liked it at first, now i hate it. it's like, wow i can paint realistically but it won't sell if i use pedestrian imagery. i'll put a young hipster in a tree, that'll go and my parents will like it because it'll look like i can paint.

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painterdog said...

I like Neo Rauch, but from what I see of this persons work its not up to his level at all.

I will add Elizabeth Payton to the list of crapy fake realist painiters who seem to be all ovet the place. I'll take George Bellows any day over these hacks.

no-where-man said...

par for the course if you look at the rest of the stable of Artists, odd gallery with reception photo's and scope hamptons...

"paintings are populated by cool-kids wrestling and acting out"

suspect.

painterdog said...

I think her other work is better, but the other artist in the gallery Hans Aichinger is kind of the same. They could be painting each others work.

The color by numbers bit is way to "cool" for me.

She's tring to hard to be trendy.

epilepticadam said...

..agreed, peyton is fake and embarassingly crappy...
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Burgerder said...

no, i think paeyton is poignant. unironic portrait paintings of people we all desire.

epilepticadam said...

peyton's concepts are boring/uncreative for me ... i suppose an argument can be made conceptually; but if thats the case i'd rather look at a photographer who captures celebrity.... she is a poor painter
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painterdog said...

"we all desire"????
not me... she can not paint period in my humble opion, they are bad as illustrations and bad as "fine art"
check out stuart Pearson Wright, now he can paint a portrait. if that's what your into.

http://www.thesaveloyfactory.com

painterdog said...

of course its all subjective...

painterdog said...

to me they are boring and show a complete lack of drawing skills is that what makes them poignant and unironic?
I think its ironic that they are what people thnk of as "hot" right now.
Critics like Jerry Saltz...

Rubbish, its just plain rubbish.

chicomacho said...

jerry saltz don't know shit, never has. But of course, thats what happens when you are yourself a shit painter and turn into a writer/critic, you hype everything in your scope of a shit view (ala schutz) to makeup of your unrealized career.

as for painter vs. artist, even someone like larry pittman admits he makes things called paintings, but doesn't consider himself a 'painter'

no-where-man said...

Burgerder - u desire gavin brown?

http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/people/smith/Images/smith4-26-31s.jpg

drop the "we"

exu said...

peyton should do box covers for douching kits

Professor Mouth said...

More adolescent flapdoodle from the 'how can I assure my buyers that I'm technically competent and still telegraph my edgy, tousled young-ness' crowd. Craaaaaaaaap.

It would make a nice album cover, though.

tumbleweed said...

I can't muster any enthusiasm for the subject matter, and from the tiny jpeg I don't care for the texture or brushstrokes, but there IS something to be said here for her distribution of lights&darks, the almost neon quality she gets in some of the well-lit places. Some of those leaves jump out against the black in a very...convincing way. That, I think, is succesful and deserve my attention.

And for the last time, damn to hell the illustration vs. fine art discussion. We probably all got enough of that talk at art school, ca we just take it as a given and move on?

TOMPAC said...

i haven't seen the show in person, but judging from the website the paintings (but not the drawings) might be described as dangerously close to Tim Gardner.

painterdog said...

Gardner another hack...

Saltz was a truck driver as well.

painterdog said...

I like illustraion. I like fine art, well some of it. I think the illustraion thing is from the flat earth school of art.
You know in art school you had people who said anything with any rendering or realistic was illustrative below fine art.
These people are snobs and live in their ivory towers(art schools).

I love NC Wyeth.
I like Mark Ryden, Todd Schorr, Clayton Brothers.

Good work is good work.

no-where-man said...

jer is a bit of a bitch but he knows his shit.

Cooky Blaha said...

agreed. he definitely nails some reviews--like the Sarah Morris film or the last Kelly show reviews were good I thought. Btw I think Gardner is much better than this..
and just to dissent I like Peyton at times, think she has a lot of talent, but definitely view her ouvre with some reservations.

no-where-man said...

i like this this

flesheater99 said...

Saltz's is allright.

I'm not particularly down with all the artists he chooses to champion but he definitely knows his shit and he keeps it interesting. Luckily he's got a pretty good grasp of culture-at-large so his writing stays fresh; up to date. No other critic holds my attention when I'm on the crapper quite like Saltz.

flesheater99 said...

of course, if homes ever gives me a bad review I'm coming after his family.

burrito brother said...

Did anyone see Roberta rip Mutu on friday? That kitty's got claws. She nailed it though.

JD said...

C'mon BB, "that kitty's got claws"? The year is 2006, not 1956.

zipthwung said...

Yeah and C'mon she didn't even take them all the way out.

What's the Use said...

She has more comments on this page than anyone else. She ucks so bad she is getting all of you to write about her. I'll tell you who sucks, player haters. My guess is she's too busy painting to write a stupid rebuttal.

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