Vita I am often mistaken for asexual because of my bitchy temperament, Quentin Crispish mannerisms and good grooming. This is very 80's. Like nightclub decor or Palm Beach lasdies with artificial talons and animal print schmattes. Not entirely an insult.
I kind of feel for Clemente. He had they shit hyped out of him in the eighties and actually deserved much of it. There was a strangeness in his early work, odd mixtures of influences like Persian miniature painting and expressionism. I feel like the market buffed down a lot of his idiosyncracies but he has managed to hold on to something.
Thanks for the list Chucky, Ive been trying to integrate vocabulary - emulating my heroes, there are so many. I love Roberta Smith and Jerry Saltz, Scheldhal, Kuspit, Hughes, Danto - anyone at my reading level. Hickey. I have an Elkins called "why are our pictures puzzles" - I think its used as a textbook. It argues that pictures are puzzles because certain classes of people turn them into puzzles. I don't know about that -I think pictures are intrinsicly puzzling tp all peoples.
I dont know that much about art, but I'm really interested.
For example, I saw a Clemente painting of a house of cards at Gagosian Gallery, which used to be in SOho, but is now in four locations at the same time. I believe this is called a franchise.
Franchise is sort of the soixonte-neuf figure that describes le poisson dans le piscine, so to speak.
Climbing the ladder is of course the goal?
But now, here, all I see is dry brushwork - as if to say the idea is more important than the craft.
Is it?
So once you make it to the spawning bed, you can do these sorts of low level visual puns? Or is it the dumbness that makes them AWESOME?
Tring to understand the source of pity. Wassuup, duggie?
Can't paint but still has immense international acclaim. No ideas but lives a remarkable, sensual life that others dream about living?
He does seem to paint too much (like Helen F.) so all the work is not consistently great, but he has come up with some stunners over the years (as has Helen to be honest). This one is not so great to me. Too decorative. But some of his stuff is great.
Famous asexual Isaac Newton discovered the laws of physics through sublimation. I will not be attending this orgy and regret hearing that No-Where Man's all of the above includes syphillis. I myself am only bipolar and suffering from low level autism. Botero painting abu ghraib: http://www.revistadiners.com.co/media/Botero44B.jpg I guess some people can survive their own cliches. I really feel for Clemente. Not being ironic.
Doug suffering comes from nonacceptance. If you accept these growths they will stop itching. Unless they are rooted in your root chakra. In this case you have real problems and the ashram cannot help you.
no-where I didn't mean to harsh on your syphillis. I hear it leads to mental degeneration and crazy people are fun. Doug if you can figure out the aura emanating from these growths it will help. Unless they are inflamed red or pustule lavender. Do not get ralfed. Then you will have ooze on your hands. This orgy is starting to sound like a bad plan.
Vita thank you for the kind remarks. Unfortunately while I like polyamorous people I have disdain for swingers because of their homophobia towards gay men. What does it say about this painting that it brought this up as well as the topic of tacky hotel decor. Animal print: flamboyant or just plain wrong?
80's taste was so awful but our more tasteful attire has allowed Americans to become obese. Try hiding adipose tissue in these animal print jumpsuit or some neon yellow jams. But what did it mean? Teanwolf??? No-Where Man this thread took a turn for the dorked up a while ago. Don't feel bad.
Oh Christ I just remembered Beastmaster (the Jason and the Argonauts of the 80's). What was the meaning behind the animal prints and animal hair in the 80's? Why does the house of Versace continue? Maybe it would be sexy on teenagers but it makes anyone else look old. I feel the same way about art using Cd's, goth and silver and black paint. http://www.idmonsters.com/rtc/08/images/beastmaster.jpg
i kind of like some of Clemente's work but as Saltz say he over rated. I think hes being a bit unfair, as I think Clemente is a smart chap with something to say. But he does carry that 80's bad art baggage around.
80's baggage... nah. From what i see clemente's stock just split. no need to worry. Lighter-weight shares. Easier to manage. less risk, great re-entry into the market for a venerable brand. Sex is great...Why'd you ask?
Hey I hear neil jenney's making a comeback from the basement at the corcoran. day traders, anyone? Let's milk this painting thang before the 08 elections...
It was larry clark who said that if you feel good with the composition, take a step closer before taking the money shot.
Spots and stripes, instead of being anything worthy of thinking about is rendered here as merely decoration... all because someone didn't bother to take that extra step closer.
Alright. It's a change. Maybe I'll get used to the change from the iconic to the cheaply allegoristic. I'll have to look at his other work to see what's up.
;) no i am wasted... i thought my last comment may have been off colour! (and a bit rude for students) don't worry jpeg, i am very very very hard to offend!!!
when i was in school i found clemente disconserting (he came on the art in nyc tapes right between schnabel and basquiat i have grown to really enjoy his work in the past few yrs!
thats what w-burg is a bunch of kids who moved from the midwest thinking it was 1982 from there last artschool class and choose to re-build it in all its glory.
I think Clemente is thinking about the potential sexual possibilities of Egyptian art. Goddesses embued with feline prowess equals pure sexuality. She is licking her fingers because she knows there's nothing more worthy worth licking. Or he. Or I'm too late in saying this.
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worst dude ever, totally. prolly a really nice man, but wde full-on.
sexy.
no -
Nf3, g3, Bg2!!!!
kings indian attack!!
Vita I am often mistaken for asexual because of my bitchy temperament, Quentin Crispish mannerisms and good grooming.
This is very 80's. Like nightclub decor or Palm Beach lasdies with artificial talons and animal print schmattes. Not entirely an insult.
I kind of feel for Clemente. He had they shit hyped out of him in the eighties and actually deserved much of it. There was a strangeness in his early work, odd mixtures of influences like Persian miniature painting and expressionism. I feel like the market buffed down a lot of his idiosyncracies but he has managed to hold on to something.
Chuck- a painting with a cigarette can never be asexual.
Everyone feels sorry for the internationally acclaimed artist, with residences in 3 cities? Too successful?
Thanks for the list Chucky, Ive been trying to integrate vocabulary - emulating my heroes, there are so many. I love Roberta Smith and Jerry Saltz, Scheldhal, Kuspit, Hughes, Danto - anyone at my reading level. Hickey. I have an Elkins called "why are our pictures puzzles" - I think its used as a textbook. It argues that pictures are puzzles because certain classes of people turn them into puzzles. I don't know about that -I think pictures are intrinsicly puzzling tp all peoples.
I dont know that much about art, but I'm really interested.
For example, I saw a Clemente painting of a house of cards at Gagosian Gallery, which used to be in SOho, but is now in four locations at the same time. I believe this is called a franchise.
Franchise is sort of the soixonte-neuf figure that describes le poisson dans le piscine, so to speak.
Climbing the ladder is of course the goal?
But now, here, all I see is dry brushwork - as if to say the idea is more important than the craft.
Is it?
So once you make it to the spawning bed, you can do these sorts of low level visual puns? Or is it the dumbness that makes them AWESOME?
As Ray Crock says, "its a priviledge."
Tring to understand the source of pity. Wassuup, duggie?
Can't paint but still has immense international acclaim. No ideas but lives a remarkable, sensual life that others dream about living?
He does seem to paint too much (like Helen F.) so all the work is not consistently great, but he has come up with some stunners over the years (as has Helen to be honest). This one is not so great to me. Too decorative. But some of his stuff is great.
He could have been more of a guru, but he ended up being a gerund. He should have asked the miniature painters to teach him something.
Famous asexual Isaac Newton discovered the laws of physics through sublimation. I will not be attending this orgy and regret hearing that No-Where Man's all of the above includes syphillis. I myself am only bipolar and suffering from low level autism.
Botero painting abu ghraib:
http://www.revistadiners.com.co/media/Botero44B.jpg
I guess some people can survive their own cliches. I really feel for Clemente. Not being ironic.
OMG this would look so hot in the Gramercy Park Hotel!
KJ if it isnt in the work, then it isnt there.
Botero is only good for money laundering.
WHat is irony.
I
say it im a listen
Doug suffering comes from nonacceptance. If you accept these growths they will stop itching. Unless they are rooted in your root chakra. In this case you have real problems and the ashram cannot help you.
i still feel sexy
no-where I didn't mean to harsh on your syphillis. I hear it leads to mental degeneration and crazy people are fun. Doug if you can figure out the aura emanating from these growths it will help. Unless they are inflamed red or pustule lavender. Do not get ralfed. Then you will have ooze on your hands.
This orgy is starting to sound like a bad plan.
Vita thank you for the kind remarks. Unfortunately while I like polyamorous people I have disdain for swingers because of their homophobia towards gay men. What does it say about this painting that it brought this up as well as the topic of tacky hotel decor.
Animal print: flamboyant or just plain wrong?
animal print: Miami or mall trash?
HPV is in and Sleepy coke..
hell im in on a friday so not listen to me mad dorken it up.
80's taste was so awful but our more tasteful attire has allowed Americans to become obese. Try hiding adipose tissue in these animal print jumpsuit or some neon yellow jams. But what did it mean? Teanwolf???
No-Where Man this thread took a turn for the dorked up a while ago. Don't feel bad.
one the good things to come out of the 80's was Joe Strummer, well late 70's the clash...
Oh Christ I just remembered Beastmaster (the Jason and the Argonauts of the 80's). What was the meaning behind the animal prints and animal hair in the 80's? Why does the house of Versace continue? Maybe it would be sexy on teenagers but it makes anyone else look old. I feel the same way about art using Cd's, goth and silver and black paint.
http://www.idmonsters.com/rtc/08/images/beastmaster.jpg
well fashion from the 80's kind of sucked. Anyway Strummer wore stove pipes.
We can't choose the decades we grow up in.
Thank your your lucky cards it was not 1940's Europe, say Poland.
i kind of like some of Clemente's work but as Saltz say he over rated.
I think hes being a bit unfair, as I think Clemente is a smart chap with something to say. But he does carry that 80's bad art baggage around.
80's baggage... nah. From what i see clemente's stock just split. no need to worry. Lighter-weight shares. Easier to manage. less risk, great re-entry into the market for a venerable brand. Sex is great...Why'd you ask?
Hey I hear neil jenney's making a comeback from the basement at the corcoran. day traders, anyone? Let's milk this painting thang before the 08 elections...
I must say that I miss the old C.
Sex-U-A-lity could've been transcendant--
but see, there were the stripes and spots, babe.
sorry babe.
I know you're into Kajagoogoo and all,
but I'm just too old to appreciate the irony of it.
Cheeze.
What's with the clunky horizontal keyline at the
bottom of the painting?
crop that out man!
Would've been a much better painting if you
sliced off the bottom eighth.
Wassup C. Are you long term or short term?
It was larry clark who said that if you
feel good with the composition,
take a step closer before taking the
money shot.
Spots and stripes, instead of being
anything worthy of thinking about
is rendered here as merely decoration...
all because someone didn't bother
to take that extra step closer.
Alright. It's a change. Maybe I'll get used to
the change from the iconic to the cheaply allegoristic.
I'll have to look at his other work to see what's up.
The Clash.
Now there's an example of talent that
was able to appropriate fashion rather
than the converse. Thx pdog.
but air supply rocks. Thx to the re-introduction
from zipthwug.
Are you sayin I ain't thick Kelli? You haven't heard my air-supply-pachelbel guitar performance. Swweeet.
dude ..
at least write the lyrics to the book!
sorry nowhere didn;'t mean to offend
if i did - i assume so by the removed comment--
i just meant that lyrics rock!
;) no i am wasted... i thought my last comment may have been off colour! (and a bit rude for students) don't worry jpeg, i am very very very hard to offend!!!
when i was in school i found clemente disconserting (he came on the art in nyc tapes right between schnabel and basquiat i have grown to really enjoy his work in the past few yrs!
thats what w-burg is a bunch of kids who moved from the midwest thinking it was 1982 from there last artschool class and choose to re-build it in all its glory.
Now dennis miller is a conservite with a capitial "C", and he likes GW.
Yeah that's an interesting shift.
Wow I do no not want to be the huevos on the rancheros of this hangover breakfast. Are you kids OK?
se necessite huevos para el desayuno?
I think Clemente is thinking about the potential sexual possibilities of Egyptian art. Goddesses embued with feline prowess equals pure sexuality. She is licking her fingers because she knows there's nothing more worthy worth licking. Or he. Or I'm too late in saying this.
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