1/17/2007

Mikyung Kim

70 comments:

Painter said...

Mikyung Kim @
Amos Eno Gallery
530 West 25th Street, 6th Floor
New York, NY 10001

zipthwung said...

needs gold leaf

poppy said...

paul klee, you need some fishes too.

zipthwung said...

i went to school with some koreans, and to generalize, they either used bright colors (Japan, J-Pop, Anime, NTSC) or earthy colors (traditional, natural, ethnic, harmonious). The thrid route - a full tonal range - doesnt sticky in my mind.

Much has been made of the conformist nature of the three eastern cultures - China, Korea and Japan. But look at Borneo, Togo and the Financial district. Its not so cut and dry.

Let us feng shui our breath and go for a supple pine in the wind. A gentle bristle for our Topol. A finer wax for our floss.

zipthwung said...

I meant spectrum not tone - I value color theory.

Anonymous said...

I thought this is how your corean comrades at school used color Zip:

#c08d80">mute
#798597">bluey grey
#869788">green grey

Before a tree is tree is: question? Is a tree predetermined to be a tree before it becomes a tree. Or does a tree actually at one stage of the game get to decide what it wants to be? Was I a tree in the making that branched out via free choice.
We all have roots, and many find new roots. Uproot is not the same as up-town, is it?
Trees and streets, and the infinite possibility of before and after, of course we never pay for the before, we are after the after.
Which brings me to these paintings, roots, routes, staring up at heaveN? before the buttress, through the stump, hard to see, better, harder, to see,
than to see all--all has the habit of putting a stump in possibility.
Thanks to google map I still can't get a fix on where I live. Thanks to Google I still have a choice.

Mikyung Kim uses roots, though thanks to google, her routes and round-a-about are still private. Pity or the prize if they were ever to become public.

zipthwung said...

Moldy Gold

Pan came out of the woods one day,--
His skin and his hair and his eyes were gray,
The gray of the moss of walls were they,--
And stood in the sun and looked his fill
At wooded valley and wooded hill.

devinlevin said...
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zipthwung said...

I stand corrected. Sorry. Something there is that doesn't love a wall, as they say in Mongolia.

I googled a full spectrum artist - Moon Soo Kim is awesome, if stuck in the agrarian past, like many Koreans.

"Indeed, Kim feels that the growing frustration and lack of calmness in modern society are a result of humanity's disregard for and deprived intimacy with nature. This is a loss that must be rediscovered for despite all the worldly comforts and conveniences reaped from industrial development, the value is severely diminished if in the process a people's spirituality is compromised. Thus, Kim attempts to rekindle this spirit on canvas by exposing the essential connection between a society and its environment.

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Anonymous said...

http://www.galeriebhak.com/
fight it out...

zipthwung said...

grow your own

via AFC

Anonymous said...

a bit safe and tasteful, but agreeable. middlebrow corporate art, the kind of thing that gets sadly lost and generally unnoticed behind the reception desk or along the wall of a corridor in an office building.

devinlevin said...

point being, come to an artists work for it's individual merit.
people don't approach white people's art as, "most white artists
work this way..." etc.
just to start a sentence off with " I went to school with some Koreans.."
does that not seem offensive?!
i imagine "some of your best friends are black"
wake up.
by the way, J-Pop is music, dumb ass, it has nothing to do with bright colors.
those who stereotype do so because they are ignorant.
not all Koreans make art about Korea, eastern philosophy, being asian, etc...
to make a blanket statement about how "Koreans make art" is asinine.
a google search doesn't qualify you to make sweeping generalizations about
an entire ethnicity and the way they do things. and one person's work is
one person's work.
some people think they are bright and clever, but their ignorance shines through.

apelles said...

I have to completely agree with what devinlevin said.

http://www.english.emory.edu/Bahri/Orientalism.html

apelles said...

"a bit safe and tasteful, but agreeable. middlebrow corporate art"

how about cliche criticism?

Martin said...

i would have thought this was joe fyfe without the name...

zipthwung said...

Youre right. I should meet this artist and ask them what they meant by making subdued abstract work with a limited palette and a fractured composition resembling a field, or a collage of photographs, or a wall.

I ass-u-me'd jpop had a look and feel, like Grunge or something. You know, Frank Kozik posters, flannel, and all that. Largely manufactured, or "constructed" as the marxists like to say, but a difneable package, so to speak.

I took Karate for a while, sO I do know a few points of cultural etiquette, like sepuku and bowing. Sensei Miyagi said "its not about fighting" so i quit. Who wants to learn a skill I'll never use? An outdated art from the days of feudal Okinawa? What has karate to do with the tea in China? Study Thai-bo Kung-Fu or Jeet Kun do. You'll get promoted faster and fight Wilt Chamberlain or Chuck Norris, Steven Seagal or, if youre lucky, Jean Claude and Christo.

I constructed a new reality, a far off place where Mr. Miyagi and his "karate" could fight without hurting anyone, but at the same time could help unite north and south korea by mental jujitsu.

look at this NK-POP You Tubed - rad!

I loooove the orient! Im goinfg to go colonize my occident. See ya.

zipthwung said...

or a forest. Bev Doolittle is one of my faves but a little pricey and I hate prints.

JpegCritic said...

paik used full spectrum.

but of course, the 60's/70's was
rife with spectrum.

spectrum coming out of the woodwork.
spectrum as the new neutal.
tres chic, spectrum.

Anonymous said...

sorry, apelles, i am not a professional critic. i do not know cliched criticism when i see it or, i suppose, make it. i do know, however, that this painting is generic in a way like all the other paintings i see in the high-rise office building i go to work in everyday to make a living. i write from experience as a worker trapped in a middlebrow corporate building with middlebrow corporate art, mf.

Anonymous said...

Yeah we all know a little more or less than the other. For the better or worse we tend to thinK in terms of German painting, French, American, East Coast, West Coast, influences, cultural integrity, all things, keeping in mind that one thing, one persons art may not be just about the knowledge we have at our fingertips to make good, sound, or meaningful constructive criticisms. We know what we know and try to extend the perimeters.
Defending one by attacking others' opinions, or their way of expressing them, does come across as a small dose of hegemony.

zipthwung said...

Vanity gallery. Not that most arent in some way - warm your hands on the open fire....its a cold one.
Dues are 175 a month. You get a solo exhibiton after six months. You do the math.

here

my advice to the artist is if they are worried about money (my guess is not s'much most foreigners in NY are RIIIIIIIICH! except one korean I know whos POOOOOOR!) and dont make a sale, to quit, get an in at the Korea Society, invite pillars of (Korea) society (your people -id invite my people but they dont have any money) and have good shoju at the opening. OR rent a studio (maybe with friends) and have people come buy. Ditto the shoju. Its a hot market - so they say - no figures on the distribution of wealth but I do know its not too shabby. Might be bad advice, but something about paying to consign your work seems wrong. ALL my teachers advised against it anyways.

But thats just me, maybe the idea is to have a BS show in NY so someone will see it. SOmeone like me, a Kobra Kai "Brownbelt".

zipthwung said...

one wonders what the galleries cut is - because I think you can define co-op in a lot of ways. Like for example, Scientology or Reverend Sung Myung Moon take a cut and what do they give you?

Anonymous said...

Also from where I'm seeing, Mikyung's work has a distinctive Asian, specifically Korean aesthetic to it. I find it calming and earthy and it's easy to miss that delicacy.
At the same gallery there is another Korean artist. Their work also displays an Asian sensibility. Why shouldn't it?
I am sure both artists are proud of their backgrounds and ethnicity. It shouldn't be hushed up or discounted.
I remember Said mentioning that he was not from Pakistan, which students often confused. He was, of course, from NY.

zipthwung said...

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Anonymous said...

they tried to make me go to rehab

ad3pt said...

kudos danlevin, well said

this painting doesnt do much for me. its really slow. my eyes don't really do anything when I look at it. its too static. I like the washed out white, and I think it would have been more successful if the linen was left exposed with maybe just the washed out white. but then it would have been a serjei jensen/stefan muller. i don't like green. the blue reminds me of fubu sweatshirts in fulton mall.

I guess my summary says that it's too stagnant formally.

in my opinion there are more formal variations which can be acheived in painting than any other medium and still have the sensuality of an object. given this, theres nothing new about squares triangles and rectangles unless its a bad palette position, which might be successful had she attempted that. otherwise Im not too convinced about this idealized aesthetic of transcendental beauty in my opinion which seems to be going on here.

Anonymous said...

There's no way to assess the sensuality of its objectness online tho. Or else it's real hard, an extrapolation.

Looks rather sensual to me, in a subtle and gentle way. Not my cup of bubble tea. I like a scraming jolt of Philz coffe myself. No mint. But I like the degree to which this painting convinces me of its perspective. Maybe I need to take a breath. Oh that was nice. Oxygen is rad.

Anonymous said...

Thanks devinlevin.

poppy said...

read most of comments,..
some of posters should read between the lines a bit and try and deal with the language. Do you really think anyone thinks all koreans make one of 2 arts or all black people are the same? please, we went to art school too, we know you are out there, I think its also pretty popular for comedy on the television,..

anyways this korean, like all koreans, -her argument sounds alot like the william morris and others argument for craft at the beginning of Industrial R or whenever back then. a return to the trees, i say join greenpeace and you get to ride a motorbike.

apelles said...

bennet,
sorry for getting on your case. i just have a problem with criticism that involves words that some critics throw around to give something a sense of authority. "middlebrow" for me is one of those words. have you ever come across a piece of criticism that says something like "this work is too illustrative"? i know that statement can describe a work perfectly, but it depends on what the work is and how the critic uses that phrase. sadly, i've seen the phrase so many times in places it shouldn't belong. it is used by people who want to give the impression that they are a true connoisseur of painting, but clearly do not know what they are talking about.

not that you are one of these critics. you just used a word that i personally despise, and i got in your face about that.

but i have to ask: have you seen the paintings? i checked the website and i could imagine these paintings being successful in real life. the painting on this site is called "before the tree was tree." if the image is of a tree stump, the title suggests regrowth after being cut down. i like the fact that it is all so vague.

apelles said...

Brent, you said:

"I am sure both artists are proud of their backgrounds and ethnicity. It shouldn't be hushed up or discounted."

maybe Said would ask: what is an "asian aesthetic" or "asian sensibility"?

Before anything, you have already decided that this work is about "asian" aesthetics. you are already disparaging the artist by considering her as the "other." Would you say the same for Turner or Raphael? Could Raphael embrace his ethnicity? Or are european artists the norm and asian artists the "ethnic" ones that should be proud of their delicate sensibilities?

Maybe you are unconsciously displaying some of the latent racism that Said talks about.

zipthwung said...

muted palette

Anonymous said...

apelles,

I'm not stating that I'm right, or in a position of authority, I am stating what I think from the information I have in front of me, at my fingertips, I think I said.

The text which accompanies the exhibition I guessed was not written by the artist though contains some evidence of the artist's thinking and processing, the tree thing is one aspect here--and I supposed that this person has been more immersed in an asian background, sensibility, their name suggest their ethnicity would be Asian. The thoughts expressed are similar to those I encounter everyday talking to artists here, but not only artists, business people who talk about things very differently than what i had grown up with or had been used to. So I took the quantum leap and guessed what I guessed.

If you have more concrete information than I do please don't keep us in suspense any longer. And if I've upset you, of course, I didn't mean to.

I should mention that my family are quite happy with the word 'ethnicity' and very proud of who they are and excited about who every one else is. Should I enlighten them more with a little Spivak?


back to the light-hearted...

Spinoza on the Essence, ---------------

code is funny stuff. those good at it can load their pages up and in an instant there it is a homepage jiving to the drive. Some who are a little slow take a number of days, have to upload the same page many times because the code is wrong and that would be me!
And then there are those who rewrite code so it performs very different from what is expected. I guess this is very close to the mutability and immutability, 'before that', stuff.

Beats talking push pull.

Decay Image said...

I am not going to step into the orientalism quicksand, it's just not worth it. I will say however that everyone seems to be misreading this painting. I think the central vertical shape is the tree. We are either seeing a hilly landscape through it (the darker blue form + the darker ocherish form) or seeing a shadow on the tree that coincidentally echoes the hilly shape behind the tree. All of this of course existing in the most vague kind of representational language (thin vertical=tree). Which is why I suppose it is called "Before the tree…etc" playing with abstract form=building block of image/language. Not particularly original, but not altogether stereotypical thinking either. The conceptual image construction sort of rescues the "sensitive" facture.

That said, it is hopeless to discuss any painting shown in a cooperative gallery. The artists are totally naive if they think their work will be taken seriously by the artworld. The best it is good for is a tax deduction. If there is further doubt, read the artist's statement on the gallery website. Painter, don't waste our time!

zipthwung said...

i thought the tree was refracting stuff like Mark Grohtjahns black holes. You know, the kosmic kauldrom

bubble bubble. I hear blue is the new black.

zipthwung said...

i think you can argue for regional/provincialism (not as a pejorative) and still go home without being all ethnocentric. If you get something down on paper you can still wash your hands, too.

zipthwung said...

Im bringing my BBQ sauce to hell. I hope thats not another myth, because that would crush my soul.

JpegCritic said...

content, content, content!

zipthwung said...

orange!

Anonymous said...

scary!

zipthwung said...

scarier!

Cooky Blaha said...

I thought that irwin shit at Pace blew...anybody care to espouse its virtues?
btw the Polke show was real good

zipthwung said...

colbert report!

Polke rocks!

JpegCritic said...

gary hill..

oh yeah that throwback from the
painting-is-dead-era...

what's with the broodthaers eagle?
or is that just an eagle?

JpegCritic said...

all of a sudden I love mikyung kim
and coop galleries! long live broodthaers!
painting is dead! long live painting!

zipthwung said...

nah, he just bought a 3d model and animated it in a deliberately crappy fashion, which works because the timing makes it more ominous in a way.

I'm reminded more of the Native American Thunderbird.

JpegCritic said...

"Before Thunderbird Was Thunderbird"

poppy said...

yes, just went to the gallery and came back and read here that it was coop,..holy no shit. is nothing happening this week...?
please..

Irwin and Polke, can we get some link ups to that. like to see the Polke stuff,...Interested to see what Irwins up to even if he's suckn..


adpt3 don't give up so easily on squares and triangles...but you can give up on this person doing anything with them. Tomma abts is doing some pretty good geometry right now. Although if you have something personally against sqaures and geom, then you prob won't like.

zipthwung said...

the myths we'll make!!!!

zipthwung said...

the spirit of thunder

A gallery is a gallery is a gallery. Except when it isnt.

JpegCritic said...

isn't or is

or would what would said say about definition of a gallery?

zipthwung said...

beyond the pale

JpegCritic said...

and so let me get this straight...

True to the greeks: Architecture, the 'mother of arts'
again exerts her control over our acceptance of art...
But now, by 'architecture' we really mean 'space', and by
'space' we really mean 'monetizable space'... meaning
space with a revenue stream.... commercial space...

And only then, within such space, can we really pay attention to art. A house and hoard, where art should thus be taken seriously... but only under such a house and a hoard.

Anonymous said...

what's a coop?
I looked it up and got this: coop = cave: the dwellings of the Horites," the ancient inhabitants of Idumea Proper. The pits or cavities in rocks were also sometimes used as prisons (Isa. 24:22; 51:14; Zech. 9:11). Those which had niches in their sides.

So I'm thinking it's something to do with cults or something, but they make loads of money, so I backtracked and figured it's a place to show if you have niches in your side. Are niches bad? What a niches?

zipthwung said...

During the Neolithic, or agricultural revolution, groups of prehistoric humans started to turn away from being nomads, seeking a more static residence. This was mainly due to the end of the Ice Age, resulting in the extinction of many of prehistoric man's game, such as the wooly mammoth. Due to this decrease in food from hunting, some groups started to turn to agriculture. Some groups could easily plant their seeds in open fields, but others had forests blocking their farming land. To find their way around this problem, some groups of prehistoric man practiced slash and burn methods.[1]

platonic

Anonymous said...

omg the Gary Hill is awsome - if Art can serve the function of making you really turned on. thats enough for me.

ad3pt said...

poppy - i like tomma abts, bernd ribbeck, grotjahn and sarah braman - hell ive kicked around trapezoids myself too - my comment about squares and triangles could probably have been said better

ad3pt said...

jpegcritic - every architect ive known and loved has been a victim of bruce mau, cultural theory, and a really bad habit of talking about science and math that they really have little to no understanding of - I spent several years at a technical school being an engineering student who listened to architects spew nonsense about quantum theory, heisenberg, and calculus - most o f them couldnt even get through linear math let alone a fundamental structures class -

I do love howard rourke as a character though

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ad3pt said...

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poppy said...

gary hill is great, and great person

Anonymous said...

i like co-op galleries
i like people who paint from what they see on the street
i like painters that dont use critical language
i dont understand people who feel the need to disrespect artists who are not in "The Artworld"

zipthwung said...

I dont like galleries that feed off the aspirations of artists - good or bad- and do little in return.
Many vanity galleries seem to do this. Many people agree with that idea.
(this artist is having a second solo show so they allready spent 2000 dollars and some cents in a year or so -above their studio and material outlay - to show in the gallery - chump change to be sure, but its the principale of the thing - Did it get them what they wanted? Did they sell anything? What is the "coop's" cut? These are questions.

I dont like the term outsider, because its black and white, and the world is not black and white.
In 2007 everyone is an outsider. Except when they arent.

I dont like talking about work with critical language because language is a lie that perpetuates lies.

I like critical thinking.
I like being critical.
I like thinking about work as something other than just a mood ring.
THis work is not my cup of tea because it doesnt have any rock n roll and I love rock n roll, but not Francis Bacon because its just a scream, and sometimes I like a power ballad for the ladies so its not just a sausage fest.

Anonymous said...

i like moods. being critical is an attempt to control things, which is ok because even rock and rollers have some control

Needed you, you were only using
Needing you just tore me down
And here I stand in isolation
Feeling emptiness and doubt
Walking down the broken highway
Sucking sugar plain and sweet
Did your mother ever tell you
That the joyful are free

I need some lovin
Like an inmate needs a dime
I need some lovin
Like a poet needs a rhyme
Here I stand in isolation
My empty hands in isolation
Walking down the broken highway
Sucking sugar cause its my way

Find me one heart to complete with
Heading for the farthest reaches
I need some lovin
Like a body needs a soul
I need some lovin
Like a fastball needs control
Here I stand in isolation
My empty hands in isolation
Strike up the band
In this proud land

Got a lot to do
Got a lot to say
Got a life to live
Here I stand-
In isolation

JpegCritic said...

good point z,
but what if someone gave me 2000 just
so i can partaayy with my art? I'd blow it.
(But no-one has so i guess I'll settle with a
six-pack miller in the studio) just sayin,
sometimes its not all about busiziness.

zipthwung said...

I will party with, but not limited to, any of the following organizations

Asia Society
Japan Society
Korea Society
tae bo

have you been to the ukranian museum?

me neither.

I love culture

Anonymous said...

sensitive post minimalist abstraction bores me to tears. where's the gestalt?

JpegCritic said...

jpegCritic says:

just cover your ass
when you party...
No. Especially WHEN you party.
GO AAPL!