10/10/2006

Pat Steir

58 comments:

closeuup said...

i've always liked pat steir--since back when she was painting the breadfruit and irises. i'd love to see a retrospective.

pannashingle said...

Is there a NY show right now? where? I've long liked Steir, too, and I daresay the paintings are more compelling than the jpgs.

Cross said...

Her work makes clear to me that in any painting, the distinctions among "landscape" "figure" and "abstract" are artificial ones.

zipthwung said...

Austere.

THere are pat steirs up once in a while - i see them around, or maybe its the iron oxide stains in the subway. Stalactites. Stalagmites.

mr peeps said...

yes, please be aware that the usual statement on this website about how you cant see the work unless you go see the show, goes triple for her. she's not only been painting for a long time but her work has changed radically over the decades. circus-like richard lindner-inspired figure paintings in the 60s, huge graphic drawing-diagrams in the 70s, work with language fragments and image, and then modular flower painting installations in the 80s, these vast void-like pours in the 90s etc.

zipthwung said...

meow

zipthwung said...

pure

poetry

no-where-man said...

does anyone know the title or scale on this piece? is it considered a "Waterfall"?

zipthwung said...

"Up up down down left right left right B A Start, just because we use cheats doesn't mean we're not smart.

Figurative abstraction. Wearable art. Volk kunst!

zipthwung said...

aniline dye!

zipthwung said...

I cant believe its not Zen!

Bark at the Moon.

gazinia said...

"Spring Rain" 2006
84 x 84 in.

kelli said...

I friend worked for her. A very nice lady. A retrospective is due but it might be later than sooner because the work is so introspective. Tomas said Furnas in contrast was like "being shouted at".

zipthwung said...

if I vever lose my eyes

Yusuf is also sending a personally signed copy of the book to the Pope for his library; hoping the understanding and dialogue between people of the great faiths of Islam and Christianity will advance towards a more enlightened future of knowledge, charity and peaceful co-existence."

Yusuf Islam

Ramtha

Alan Watts

Donald Kuspit

Suzi Gablik

Thus decoupled cognition, in this sense, is neither an evolutionary nor a cognitive "problem." Pretense (or "the unreal") is first experienced within a "real," shared context, by means of analogical intermodal representations that have intrinsic and pervasive emotional valences or overtones. Moreover, the importance to early interactions of expectation or anticipation, dependent on infant receptivity to maternal presentation of dynamically varied, temporally patterned sequences, suggests that, for adults (as well as infants), nonverbal "emotional narrative" that unfolds in time is as integral to the content and effect of imaginary representations -- fiction, poetry, and related arts -- as are their imagery, plot, and other more easily describable components.

Thank you Ellen Dissanayake

JpegCritic said...
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zipthwung said...

Tautologicly speaking:

"Sincerity means the completion of the self, and the Way is self directing. Sincerity is the beginning and ending of things. Without sincerity there would be nothing.....therefore absolute sincerity is ceaseless. Being ceaseless, it is lasting. Being lasting, it is evident. Being evident, it is infinite.

-Confucius

brent hallard said...

What's introspection for you (?)--reaching in for something that's not there, hard to reach, or needs tugging out--a process?

In this work processes are equally external and internal.

'... layers to the surface, rises to the austere. Then parts.'

Very powerful.

SisterRye said...

I wonder what Freud would say about this vertical crease.

It does remind me of a trickling waterfall, or rain.

I'd prefer to see this kind of work in person. The work of people like Twombly, or Brice Marden always looks best in person.

dharmabum said...

Crease or shaft? I saw the show at Locks in Philadelphia- better than sex. If Marden is the last great painter of the 20th C then Steir is the first great painter of the 21st? The waterfalls I could take or leave. This series I didn't want to leave.

Cooky Blaha said...

whoa..Marden and Steir are getting don corleone status now? whats up with my worldview

kelli said...

Cooky you don't want to wake up with a Susan Rothenberg horse's head in your bed. Or sleep with the Fishmans. Or be fitted for some concrete Carl Andre shoes.

zipthwung said...

Apparently a prominent artist tried to run down Donal Kuspit in a car once.

I dont need to know, but I want to know.

tomas said...

I haven't seen these yet, but they can be really beautiful, like ceramics.

zipthwung said...

exquisite

mr peeps said...

i dont like this pour stuff at all. i think it's lazy and pretty boring. but i do think people should know how big the span of her work is. i tried googling to find good early stuff. no dice.

Cooky Blaha said...

c. andre shoes sounds kinda cool

"they can be really beautiful, like ceramics"
--are u teasin?

closeuup said...

PS not capturing the zeitgeist for you cooky?
(im teasin)

cha said...

rocket launched....

tomas said...

Both serious and teasing. Have you ever looked at the pots around the 2nd floor stairwell at the Met? Look at the dates too. They were made in a different context but to me lots of those pots are as good as any paintings.

But for those of you who have seen this show: are the surface and the color enough on that conventional format?

gazinia said...

I saw the show at Locks. Tomas, that is exactly my problem with them: they are surface, color, and scale too (monumental, although not Furnas' 30 ft., more modern art scale), but it isn't enough. It made me feel like I must be missing something content-wise, but I didn't care if I knew. They must be more than depictions of nature. I want to read them as human figures. I never read anything about Steir to know.

closeuup said...

PS is very generous--she leaves it open to your interpretation.

Is it enough? Enough what, exactly? What do you need? What are you looking for? Interesting when someone feels they need to read some background something to "know". But the early work, inspired by Agnes martin, is fascinating. And the mid 80s investigation of style...

I find them subtle. Distilled. Powerful, as Brent said.

JpegCritic said...

ok, so i wonder why anyone hasn't yet
mentioned barnett newman's Zip --
(sorry no relation to zipthwung, but
in reference to newman)

I know it's made differently than bn's
zip, but as a figural stand in, pictorially,
doesn't it work the same schtick?

I mean, in a good way -- an evolution
of the zip. a zippier zip, perhaps?

I know it may be just coincedence,
or just not interesting enough to
discuss... perhaps better to discuss
the first star trek movie when the woman
got zapped by the V-gr vertical plasmatic
electrical probe.

zipthwung said...

glazed

closeuup said...

what is the shtick/stick? Finding a simple image that evokes a lot of things--history, art history, nature, personality...

Donuts and everclear. Yum.

zipthwung said...

One time I was psyching myself up to jump off a 35 foot cliff into a river at the end of the summer. You had to clear a good six feet beyond the lip, and the bank looked threatening. There was a well worn path to the edge - a zip. I closed my eyes and imagined a line down the center of my body.

WHen I was little I thought of this line as "my soul" - a sort of rebar in the concrete of my body. The supple pine to the brittle nature. An I-beam.

Properly centered I ran to the edge and jumped.

Thats called a Kierkegardian leap of faith, or just stupidity. Either way I found myself in the clutches of gravity.

FOr an instant I hung in the air, falling slowly.

Then I fell faster.

I began to fall a little askew, no longer a straight line perpendicular with the water.

The impact was brutal.

Emerging from the water I felt my nose bleeding, and a large red welt ran down my right leg.

Then I told my friend to jump.

zipthwung said...

You know these arent really my think but I like them better than the false spirituality of Sean Scully. Less than a good Rothko, more than a Robert Ryman. More or less.

I've only been to church a few times - mostly because of weddings and stuff.

This painting would go good in a skylit atrium, with raked gravel and a light grey slate walkway to the bathroom.

closeuup said...

Sean Scullys a bricklayer. Church sucks. Full of hypocrites.

We used to go to a new age church in the 80s. Over at the swedish hall on Market St. Dude was crazy. Healing circles. No hypocrisy though. Kinda fun. Lots of love.

zipthwung said...

sean scully

Love bombing is a good technique - keep them occupied, restrict their caloric intake and keep the lights on so its hard to sleep.

no-where-man said...

thx gazinia!

i am not very familiar with this Artist and cannot comment on the surface but from the titles it seems that she is capturing something more literal then abstract, like a zoom lense.

zipthwung said...

paid vacation

closeuup said...

well u see my friend...we went because people had aids and they wanted to be healed. they died in the end. but we were all healed as much as we could be. the love we felt lasts forever, thru space and time, for what its worth

zipthwung said...

jesus

zipthwung said...

I find a warm bath does wonders.

gazinia said...

Closeup --
I think a lot of visual art fails when it requires reading the artists statement to understand what an artist is after. Just with these paintings the visual impact seemed shallow. Steir has been around for so long and I've passed her books on library shelves enough that I feel she deserves a little research on my part. I feel bad commenting without more info. I only commented for Tomas because I actually saw the show.

I agree with the Newman "zip" connection with these paintings. I saw it standing in the gallery -- the difference with Steir's paintings is the drips and/or drip-size strokes and her "zips" are centrally located which is a huge difference. And these paintings really read as water falling.

gazinia said...

What the hell happened on the Upper East Side just now? A plane crashed into a building?

zipthwung said...

youre dangerous

cnn says its a small plane.

no-where-man said...

like a lizard on a window pane.


they took my liquid eyeliner away when i last flew - but small planes are ok to fly around tall buildings. perfect.

zipthwung said...

More than 25 million people have died of AIDS since 1981.

Africa has 12 million AIDS orphans.

BALTIMORE, Maryland (CNN) -- War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, a new study reports.

closeuup said...

No offense, just meant that love bombs are at least as good as emotional body armor. Actual body armor? Never tried it...

zipthwung said...

not how much just how many.

zipthwung said...

dreams do come true

Exploding shock collars are just around the corner.

JpegCritic said...

klik

zipthwung said...

boom

does pat steir like rock music?

Martin said...

this is the 1973 Pat Steir that is included in the High Times, Hard Times show, for whomever was looking for older work -

http://flickr.com/photos/43686206@N00/267404005/

you can see some early drips.

she was good in the Art City video... warm.

closeuup said...

Thats a super nice photo stream Martin. Good stuff. Thanks

zipthwung said...

High times hard times Its off to the races again...

Id rather be a waterfall than a shoe.

zipthwung said...

THe Tao of Satchi:

One place where he is not discovering much art at the moment is London. “I can’t pretend I find it as exciting as it was. Everything is cyclical.”

high times

Apparently there isnt enough art in the world.

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