This is so slight it is hard to discuss. The glassy glasses really are the best part. I would like it if they reflected something totally inconguent with the image like flames.
Saw these first time in person when Station Gallery were looking after him. The Director and I had a good talk, because I was a little lost too! These small things, with Mondrian paintings, were ratty, and kind of plain, had pika-pika jewel like qualities littered throughout them. He's since moved on to Tokyo's leading Gallery, so obviously has a hot European market. The work is more clear now, as to which camp it fits into. I would say Ye is very interested in the stumbling point, the place where the pinch and leaver loose their hold, thus shift the subsequent...
Its interesting because this image - this TROPE -is common, be it glasses or the black brim of a cowboy at high noon, or the hood of an acolytes robe.
THere are several issues that are identified with (asian/kostabi) art - true or not:
1) the academicism 2) lack of originality 3) (beaurocratic) conformity 4) didacticism
After visiting a Lichtenstein exhibition in Chicago, attorney Mark Weissburg wrote an article titled ``Roy Lichtenstein, Copyright Thief?" ``I was struck by the fact that Lichtenstein was never sued for copyright infringement," Weissburg wrote. ``Under copyright law if you copy a protected work without permission you are breaking the law . . . . The Copyright Act also prohibits what are called `derivative works.' These are works that play off of or incorporate or embellish another work. Virtually every one of Lichtenstein's paintings was either an out and out copy or at least a derivative work."
Must agree with Scott Taylor with the resonance with Yuskavage..
It's in the weird way they stylize--
I see it as an inverse-of and the-same-as Margaret Keane's "Keane Eyes" paintings -- Amplified cuteness...
But whereas Ye and Yus. spin-off on the knowingness of thrift-store-cache and lowbrow-cuteness-to-highbrow-knowingess... Keane still seems like the keeper.
I must say, I've grown weary of yuskavage. Ye, well, there's still the value of decorating the homes in the next 12 issues of Dwell. You know, in the light-filled nook, over the light-filled bowl of fruit, next to the light filled actionings of cool-folk.
Whereas Keane -- Ah yes. Hanging amidst veneered wood paneled interiors, and smoky enclaves where every surface is non-descript and oh-so telling...
The trouble with references to Manga, is that Manga is almost always better. It is rooted deep in an Asian sensibility and has no pretensions, as it is an art form in itself. Somehow when east meets west everything gets screwed up and we get cute.
What the world needs now is "cute"? Bury it with the corpses of the recently murdered.
Remember George Manga is Japanese--This artist is Chinese. Manga magnifies the flat, emphasizes line and contour to give rise to form. Ye uses a strange mix of outline and blending color to create the form, similar to, as mentioned by Scott, a western way--Yuskavage, as close as you can get. But of course the concerns are very different. The paint usage seems particular to what is coming out of China recently, not mattering abstract of figurative. There is a western sense, and then there is not--the feeling, believe me, is very Chinese, plus a delicate and quite restraint, which is a little unusual. Japanese painting is usually framed, well, gentle.
All Asian art looks alike, like all Asians look alike, right!? The truth is, well--I met for coffee a friend I hadn't caught up with for over a year. I picked her waiting, she looked straight thru me. When sitting down she apologized, adding, of course, that was easy to make a mistake, after-all "All Western people look the same." Chuckles.
If you have seen Nara, know his work well, go see this show. You'll understand the 'no comparison'. Nara doesn't work with messages, it's all just what you see, the disparity. Ye, blends codes, throws out simple information, or suggestion, very much to do with identity, politics, and The New Chinese, anything but heroic, but somehow is.
Yeah, I know the differences. It was late. Asian art, in particular Chinese painting has a long history and as you know, can be incredibly subtle and refined. I still think the east meets west thing produces an odd result but it’s something which may play out over time. I don’t find cute appealing, east or west.
One area that interests me is Chinese writing. Since it is based more on combinations of symbolic forms rather than single tokens, I suspect that it might potentially have an affect on the way thought processes are expressed. I don’t have any proof, it’s just a speculation, but I would think their must be a different, possibly more refined or heightened relationship with the symbolic (pictorial forms) Does this make any sense? It’s just a thought, I need more coffee.
went to the opening, they are not that small - this was not one of the most interesting pieces in the show, in life NIght's (5/8 x 67 inches) red shoe has an eerrie amazing effect. Once Upon a Time in Broadway and Boogie Woogie, Little Girl - where the girl is looking at the Art are show very curious relationship between this Artist and Painting.
"The trouble with references to Manga, is that Manga is almost always better."
I was watching Catoon Networks manga stuff and its pretty trippy. Made by men for children, this stuff makes one yearn for the inner child.
Kostabis paintings have a flatness to them - an affectless effect. And they are faceless!
No Feckless!
Its like the twilight zone episode or ten where someone turns towards the camera, the mirror, "the and" and......
so in a sense we go back to maigritte, dont we? On the short buss? Inhabiting his studio, with its pipes that are not pipes, its bowler hatted people, its nights that are day?
I prefer works such as Michael Baldwin's:
"Map of Thirty-Six Square Mile Surface Area of Pacific Ocean West of Oahu" (1967)
Kostabis paintings are done for brain dead consumers.
I read this account how he hid in the bathrooms at the new Moma to crash the opening, he was not invited, and spent hours siting on top of a tolet. WTF! How sad is that... and it was on his web site that this story was told by non-other than the man himself. Sad, so desperate to be part of the "art scene".
And yet the man makes millions in italy. I guess its the italian interest in craftsmanship that slave labor in China doesnt have.
My advice to you who are manufacturing your paintings in china - visit the factory regularly. Here's what to watch for:
1) Workers doing fun runs at lunch. DOnt be fooled, workers do not want to run at lunch. In an ideal world they would much prefer to eat lunch at lunch, and then go to a Crunch and do tai-bo.
2) Wokers working overtime. THis may seem cool to the average manhattanite working their way up the corporate ladder, but there is no ladder in a factory. In a factory there is a floor and a tin ceiling.
In conclusion, shouldn't we artists unionize? Isnt it time that artists use collective bargaining to cease the flow of QUALITY luxury goods to a class that neither cares about nor heeds our demands for INTELLECTUAL RIGOUR?
amy sillman talked at strand last week.anyone went? Marlene Dumas talking at Cooper Union on 23rd if anyone cares, and last but not least Zip's intimations were correct on Rhoades (as per artnet). Foot binding is is irrelevant to this painting...............................
Decay! That guy, Malcolm X, which part of Provincial France did his ancestors come from? Before Chris sailed over I was told he got a fax saying, 'Quess what, Chris, it's inhabited!'
Yeah, I'd like to talk more, but probably, I think painter has in mind a new image.
Decay... "the center of the art world is shifting out of the US in front of our eyes for a variety of economic and political reasons ... I don't want to truly understand this work too well because I think it coopts Euro-American painting"
Appreciate the honesty.
And you're right... Cultural dominacy is indeed entwined with economic dominancy. We will see a great shift before our eyes.
weird.This made me think of Su-En Wong-her paintings-the cute objectified stereotype thing. Sometimes going as far as expoiting it themselves with no further illumination. The one called Strawberry was so cute, too cute, that it bacame not cute-morphed into annoyingly cute-like the child beauty contests and how annoying those kids are or like eating a fudge +marshmallow+ caramel topped sunday. Eh.
if you look at the rest of the show i see foot binding - also reflected in the almost "forced" cuteness. i was chatting with a film critic last night who was morning the antiquation of print, and intellectual rigor thru the recent layoff of another film critic at the Voice. She said they won't be replaced, because people just "don't care"
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This is very...cute. I do not know what to make of it!
Nice orange lips?
this is interesting, it's very much like some of the Japanese artist who work in this vain.
The cute factor with a sardonic twist.
they are all small paintings.
I think this is in the 14x20 inch range
the glasses are very glassesy
I like the elizabeth murray better.
me too, very very much.
This is so slight it is hard to discuss. The glassy glasses really are the best part. I would like it if they reflected something totally inconguent with the image like flames.
Saw these first time in person when Station Gallery were looking after him. The Director and I had a good talk, because I was a little lost too!
These small things, with Mondrian paintings, were ratty, and kind of plain, had pika-pika jewel like qualities littered throughout them. He's since moved on to Tokyo's leading Gallery, so obviously has a hot European market. The work is more clear now, as to which camp it fits into. I would say Ye is very interested in the stumbling point, the place where the pinch and leaver loose their hold, thus shift the subsequent...
I went the gallery site and the other work has some paintings that to me have this sligthly off thing going on.
preach it
this blog looks good
statement
Maoism is a selling point I guess. Fight the power.
How is this any better or worse than Mark Kostabi? Can we get a kostabi up?
Its interesting because this image - this TROPE -is common, be it glasses or the black brim of a cowboy at high noon, or the hood of an acolytes robe.
THere are several issues that are identified with (asian/kostabi) art - true or not:
1) the academicism
2) lack of originality
3) (beaurocratic) conformity
4) didacticism
After visiting a Lichtenstein exhibition in Chicago, attorney Mark Weissburg wrote an article titled ``Roy Lichtenstein, Copyright Thief?" ``I was struck by the fact that Lichtenstein was never sued for copyright infringement," Weissburg wrote. ``Under copyright law if you copy a protected work without permission you are breaking the law . . . . The Copyright Act also prohibits what are called `derivative works.' These are works that play off of or incorporate or embellish another work. Virtually every one of Lichtenstein's paintings was either an out and out copy or at least a derivative work."
here
nutty professors
dead metaphors
(she's) Blinding me with science....
Must agree with Scott Taylor with the resonance
with Yuskavage..
It's in the weird way they stylize--
I see it as an inverse-of and the-same-as
Margaret Keane's "Keane Eyes" paintings --
Amplified cuteness...
But whereas Ye and Yus. spin-off on
the knowingness of thrift-store-cache and
lowbrow-cuteness-to-highbrow-knowingess...
Keane still seems like the keeper.
I must say, I've grown weary of yuskavage.
Ye, well, there's still the value of decorating
the homes in the next 12 issues of Dwell.
You know, in the light-filled nook, over
the light-filled bowl of fruit, next to the
light filled actionings of cool-folk.
Whereas Keane -- Ah yes. Hanging amidst
veneered wood paneled interiors, and smoky
enclaves where every surface is non-descript
and oh-so telling...
Which of each is the real-deal?
i like this over Elizabeth Murray.
Goes better with my Cinema Display.
The trouble with references to Manga, is that Manga is almost always better. It is rooted deep in an Asian sensibility and has no pretensions, as it is an art form in itself. Somehow when east meets west everything gets screwed up and we get cute.
What the world needs now is "cute"?
Bury it with the corpses of the recently murdered.
Remember George Manga is Japanese--This artist is Chinese. Manga magnifies the flat, emphasizes line and contour to give rise to form.
Ye uses a strange mix of outline and blending color to create the form, similar to, as mentioned by Scott, a western way--Yuskavage, as close as you can get. But of course the concerns are very different. The paint usage seems particular to what is coming out of China recently, not mattering abstract of figurative. There is a western sense, and then there is not--the feeling, believe me, is very Chinese, plus a delicate and quite restraint, which is a little unusual.
Japanese painting is usually framed, well, gentle.
All Asian art looks alike, like all Asians look alike, right!?
The truth is, well--I met for coffee a friend I hadn't caught up with for over a year. I picked her waiting, she looked straight thru me. When sitting down she apologized, adding, of course, that was easy to make a mistake, after-all "All Western people look the same." Chuckles.
If you have seen Nara, know his work well, go see this show. You'll understand the 'no comparison'. Nara doesn't work with messages, it's all just what you see, the disparity.
Ye, blends codes, throws out simple information, or suggestion, very much to do with identity, politics, and The New Chinese, anything but heroic, but somehow is.
brent,
Yeah, I know the differences. It was late.
Asian art, in particular Chinese painting has a long history and as you know, can be incredibly subtle and refined. I still think the east meets west thing produces an odd result but it’s something which may play out over time. I don’t find cute appealing, east or west.
One area that interests me is Chinese writing. Since it is based more on combinations of symbolic forms rather than single tokens, I suspect that it might potentially have an affect on the way thought processes are expressed. I don’t have any proof, it’s just a speculation, but I would think their must be a different, possibly more refined or heightened relationship with the symbolic (pictorial forms) Does this make any sense? It’s just a thought, I need more coffee.
Death March for Cutie?
went to the opening, they are not that small - this was not one of the most interesting pieces in the show, in life NIght's (5/8 x 67 inches) red shoe has an eerrie amazing effect.
Once Upon a Time in Broadway and Boogie Woogie, Little Girl - where the girl is looking at the Art are show very curious relationship between this Artist and Painting.
"The trouble with references to Manga, is that Manga is almost always better."
I was watching Catoon Networks manga stuff and its pretty trippy. Made by men for children, this stuff makes one yearn for the inner child.
Kostabis paintings have a flatness to them - an affectless effect. And they are faceless!
No Feckless!
Its like the twilight zone episode or ten where someone turns towards the camera, the mirror, "the and" and......
so in a sense we go back to maigritte, dont we? On the short buss? Inhabiting his studio, with its pipes that are not pipes, its bowler hatted people, its nights that are day?
I prefer works such as Michael Baldwin's:
"Map of Thirty-Six Square Mile Surface Area of Pacific Ocean West of Oahu" (1967)
here
Positively INSCRUTABLE.
Pacific rim, you give me fever.
Kostabis paintings are done for brain dead consumers.
I read this account how he hid in the bathrooms at the new Moma to crash the opening, he was not invited, and spent hours siting on top of a tolet.
WTF! How sad is that... and it was on his web site that this story was told by non-other than the man himself.
Sad, so desperate to be part of the "art scene".
And yet the man makes millions in italy. I guess its the italian interest in craftsmanship that slave labor in China doesnt have.
My advice to you who are manufacturing your paintings in china - visit the factory regularly. Here's what to watch for:
1) Workers doing fun runs at lunch. DOnt be fooled, workers do not want to run at lunch. In an ideal world they would much prefer to eat lunch at lunch, and then go to a Crunch and do tai-bo.
2) Wokers working overtime. THis may seem cool to the average manhattanite working their way up the corporate ladder, but there is no ladder in a factory. In a factory there is a floor and a tin ceiling.
In conclusion, shouldn't we artists unionize? Isnt it time that artists use collective bargaining to cease the flow of QUALITY luxury goods to a class that neither cares about nor heeds our demands for INTELLECTUAL RIGOUR?
God help us all.
I Pod People
z, i think your statement
must have had an effect
I have stopped using the word "we".
My ipod didnt work for too long.
amy sillman talked at strand last week.anyone went? Marlene Dumas talking at Cooper Union on 23rd if anyone cares, and last but not least Zip's intimations were correct on Rhoades (as per artnet). Foot binding is is irrelevant to this painting...............................
Decay! That guy, Malcolm X, which part of Provincial France did his ancestors come from?
Before Chris sailed over I was told he got a fax saying, 'Quess what, Chris, it's inhabited!'
Yeah, I'd like to talk more, but probably, I think painter has in mind a new image.
http://www.ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalksplayer.cfm?key=hans_rosling
Decay... "the center of the art world is shifting out of the US in front of our eyes for a variety of economic and political reasons ... I don't want to truly understand this work too well because I think it coopts Euro-American painting"
Appreciate the honesty.
And you're right... Cultural dominacy
is indeed entwined with economic dominancy.
We will see a great shift before our eyes.
weird.This made me think of Su-En Wong-her paintings-the cute objectified stereotype thing. Sometimes going as far as expoiting it themselves with no further illumination. The one called Strawberry was so cute, too cute, that it bacame not cute-morphed into annoyingly cute-like the child beauty contests and how annoying those kids are or like eating a fudge +marshmallow+ caramel topped sunday. Eh.
if you look at the rest of the show i see foot binding - also reflected in the almost "forced" cuteness. i was chatting with a film critic last night who was morning the antiquation of print, and intellectual rigor thru the recent layoff of another film critic at the Voice. She said they won't be replaced, because people just "don't care"
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