The bizarre works of Arcimboldo especially his multiple images were rediscovered by Surrealist artists in the first part of 20th century. The paranoiac-critical method of Salvador Dalí was influenced by the Mannerist painter and in many Surrealist Dictionaries Arcimboldo is identified as a Surrealist painter before Surrealism existed. In the “The Arcimboldo Effect” exhibition at the Palazzo Grassi in Venice (1987) a lot of double meaning paintings were exhibited, all of them connected to the secret technique of Giuseppe Arcimboldo. There are also contemporary works influenced by the revival of interest in Arcimboldo, including paintings by Shigeo Fukuda, István Orosz, Octavio Ocampo and Sandro del Prete, and some of the films of Jan Svankmajer.
So what's Ted's tromp loil brushstroke in the service of? Whatever it is, it makes me want to smile and pat him on the head--and that's a good thing. This is a softer perspective than Glenn Brown, but its still right on. UNLIKE JOHN CURRIN.
too much softer for my taste. More like YES than metal though I'm digging the pizza and the eyeballs on his website ... but will he bring ART to THE MALL
@closeuup:right on what? I'm no fan of currin but I think he could paint circles around this, though thats hardly a relevant point. Is your beef with him strictly on idealogical reasons?
It's a "the kids are allright" thing. Coincidentally just this morning my daughter said she was on the bus and she and her friends were playing out music from their phones, and they played owner of the lonely heart, and she goes this old fat bald man who was about 50 (she says that about everyone over 27) turns around and leers "I didnt know young people still listened to Yes".
So Glenn is picking his targets like a sniper. OG wants him to go buckshot, I guess. Ted is a lover not a fighter.
John Currin is a very good painter-- its true. In the service of what?Well, in the service of the continuing supremecy of John Currin. Fuk dat.
Stare it down if u can: “I’ve always walked the line between N.W.A and Slayer,” Aoki says, “but I know that guilty pleasures are just as important, so Big Country and Whitney Houston are definitely important to my sense of good songwriting.”
I think what frustrates some is that the burger gets all the attention, along with the pizza, and not a lot of people can figure out why. I mean is it a secret code for something else? Probably not, probably just an obsession with things you know, and the thinking, you know, ‘what would it be like if a burger could say *howdy’. I mean it's an interesting idea. And if anyone is going to get that idea moving then it's going to be Mineo. The truth is: I don't know what they, the relief pieces, are on about: something about the American landscape; the food, the factory; a personal history that distinguishes things [?]. Maybe it has to do with authenticity, and Ted represents the ‘real’ America, dreams and nightmares embodied as child-like fantasies, reality and nonrealistic all rolled up in one, where there are no distinctions, on a wall, in relief, for our reflection
On another note, it does seem that the new show by Tuttle and Mineo’s show [that is now down?], may share some coincidences.
Maybe the code is just consuming? People are always talking about 'tasteful' and 'tasty' art - the link from oral to optical and back.
The colors remind me of Parrish/Disney as well as the mall. But I'm sort of surprised this is quite small (3' or so) and precious – too small for the mall. I used to do this sort of stuff for department stores when it was called ‘visual merchandising’ - VM. But we had to do it so that people could walk through it to the toy department. Got your airbrush licks down if nothing else.
check out the urban outfitters "edgy" merchandising - its arabic allover patterns on rectangles arrayed in fans like explosions. I think its the same in all the stores.
Well the colors are definite - Disney stole From parish and everything else romantic and old world.
The real Santa Fe palette (not the postmodern one) is nice - pastels in bluegreen sage, iron oxide sand orange - those are compliments and then the sandia mountains at sunset pink, cumulonimbus prussian blue.
i'm seeing a micro/ macro pull: journey to the center of the earth/ fantastic voyage as for freudian body parts-- gotta say womb-like: The American Landscape as Decorated Womb... if it triggers taste buds, well
Old guy, love to see that on a t-shirt "Too Small for The Mall"
Hey Concrete, I never figured you as an Octoberist. But if you look at the enlarged version of Mineo’s work (http://www.tedmineo.com/IMAGES/happy.jpg) there is definitely this lush, ‘ripe’ (fruity?) quality to the colour, and the strange Disney architecture, it strikes me as an advertiser’s block booking – you know, where, if you like these products, you might like to check out the spin-offs, add-ons, and no cost extras. The mention of VM was not just idle reminiscence. Ted may have found his spiritual home there, or be trying to. My advice Ted is don’t go there, but if you have, don’t tell us. Is it that sweet spot awaiting product placement? The perfect fantasyland where everything tastes yummy, sparkling or fizzy? It’s an interesting subject, I suppose, but I wonder if the work can really talk about it, rather than just participate in it? Perhaps the small scale (relatively) is one way of distinguishing the thing from just product. Maybe a gallery context would sharpen it. Actually I can imagine them going really well with the full theatrical treatment – low lights, black carpet, etc. Ted needs more VM, not less! I’ve often thought installation was uncomfortably similar to VM. My conversations with dressers only confirmed this: they got stuff like Rhoades, right off! Cady was right there for them – Hirschhorn was bretheren, but they wondered whether that stuff wasn’t too esoteric for the rest of the populace. They would definitely dig Mineo, but would he be too little or too much?
This work reads as nostalgia to me, probably when he was a kid and got pizza at the mall and then got a quarter and got a little eyeball out of a machine and then he went and bought one of those wizard type posters that is complete trompe(decieves me like crazy with its trompety trompe)-but done with an airbrush, and then wondered around and ended up looking at the covers of those teen romance novels and got an erection for a bit-.still, more flea market than mall to me..Its sad that what seems to stick out most is the dungeons and dragons stuff. I still don't react well to that imagery.
My thing about Yes and the kids on the bus had a point too. Ted is a Kid, and I think Poppy is closing in. This is like one of those flea market --burl wood sculpture --spray painted tee shirt--things--its juvenalia--its sweet love. Bite it.
I went to the mall and I don't have much nostalgia for it anywhere - the manhattan mall is particularly dull. Not sure why you'd want to wallow in that other than the fact that your relatives do, so its unavoidable at some social level. Certainly you wouldn't hang out with anyone who shopped for tchotchkies in a mall-like setting, open air or highrise.
Then your kid comes back because the ten dollars you gave them went into Gauntlet or Darius (I'm dating myself here) and and the kid is thirsty, because the mall is bone dry, so he goes to Orange Julius, but the blender just broke.
In the ensuing crying fit you wonder if it might be better if the kid came from a broken home, because you never wanted kids anyway. They cost as much as a Ferarri or more likely a Corvette.
You should hang out with some kids sometime. Also wierd relatives are horrible yet fascinating. Ted is holding our feet to the fire. Something about fighting the man and being the man?
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Ted Mineo @
Deitch Projects
11:35 Eastern standard time, and TED FUKKIN' Mineo!
I thought Ted probably was into metal.
Ted Mineo brings THE MALL to ART. How does he do it more than anyone else?
Don't answer its a trick question.
I'm looking forward to 28 weeks later, the movie and GOD is in the air like a fresh piece of ass.
didn't this piece come up last week on antiques roadshow? and wasn't it worth a kajillion dollars?
Wikipedia says:
The bizarre works of Arcimboldo especially his multiple images were rediscovered by Surrealist artists in the first part of 20th century. The paranoiac-critical method of Salvador Dalí was influenced by the Mannerist painter and in many Surrealist Dictionaries Arcimboldo is identified as a Surrealist painter before Surrealism existed. In the “The Arcimboldo Effect” exhibition at the Palazzo Grassi in Venice (1987) a lot of double meaning paintings were exhibited, all of them connected to the secret technique of Giuseppe Arcimboldo. There are also contemporary works influenced by the revival of interest in Arcimboldo, including paintings by Shigeo Fukuda, István Orosz, Octavio Ocampo and Sandro del Prete, and some of the films of Jan Svankmajer.
I'm actually pretty sure my dad bought me a purple dragon at a flea market in Ontario when I was 10 that goes with this piece. "I have the POoweerr"
glowing like kinkade
im fairly sure its less "rock and roll" and more "queer disco"
detail
ted's the kind of boy that a girl can like.
So what's Ted's tromp loil brushstroke in the service of? Whatever it is, it makes me want to smile and pat him on the head--and that's a good thing. This is a softer perspective than Glenn Brown, but its still right on. UNLIKE JOHN CURRIN.
here
I agree. There is at least some feeling of the trill of making here, and a kind of obsessiveness that cannot be faked.
too much softer for my taste. More like YES than metal
though I'm digging the pizza and the eyeballs on his website
... but will he bring ART to THE MALL
@closeuup:right on what? I'm no fan of currin but I think he could paint circles around this, though thats hardly a relevant point. Is your beef with him strictly on idealogical reasons?
YES. I dont think ted is punk anymore than Hot Topic caused 9-11.
Someone should make an educational video game that lets you worship satan online.
It's a "the kids are allright" thing. Coincidentally just this morning my daughter said she was on the bus and she and her friends were playing out music from their phones, and they played owner of the lonely heart, and she goes this old fat bald man who was about 50 (she says that about everyone over 27) turns around and leers "I didnt know young people still listened to Yes".
So Glenn is picking his targets like a sniper. OG wants him to go buckshot, I guess. Ted is a lover not a fighter.
John Currin is a very good painter-- its true. In the service of what?Well, in the service of the continuing supremecy of John Currin. Fuk dat.
Stare it down if u can: “I’ve always walked the line between N.W.A and Slayer,” Aoki says, “but I know that guilty pleasures are just as important, so Big Country and Whitney Houston are definitely important to my sense of good songwriting.”
I think what frustrates some is that the burger gets all the attention, along with the pizza, and not a lot of people can figure out why. I mean is it a secret code for something else? Probably not, probably just an obsession with things you know, and the thinking, you know, ‘what would it be like if a burger could say *howdy’.
I mean it's an interesting idea. And if anyone is going to get that idea moving then it's going to be Mineo.
The truth is:
I don't know what they, the relief pieces, are on about: something about the American landscape; the food, the factory; a personal history that distinguishes things [?].
Maybe it has to do with authenticity, and Ted represents the ‘real’ America, dreams and nightmares embodied as child-like fantasies, reality and nonrealistic all rolled up in one, where there are no distinctions, on a wall, in relief, for our reflection
On another note, it does seem that the new show by Tuttle and Mineo’s show [that is now down?], may share some coincidences.
Maybe the code is just consuming? People are always talking about 'tasteful' and 'tasty' art - the link from oral to optical and back.
The colors remind me of Parrish/Disney as well as the mall. But I'm sort of surprised this is quite small (3' or so) and precious – too small for the mall.
I used to do this sort of stuff for department stores when it was called ‘visual merchandising’ - VM. But we had to do it so that people could walk through it to the toy department.
Got your airbrush licks down if nothing else.
It's still called visual merchandising.
I did some - i can match colors and do light carpentry, but it was pretty much bullshit.
The code is light to dark, left to right.
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check out the urban outfitters "edgy" merchandising - its arabic allover patterns on rectangles arrayed in fans like explosions. I think its the same in all the stores.
Yeah!
Remember Santa Fe?
A king look for the dressers.
I did Navaho motifs on the fibro pots and shit.
That was so instructive.
creativity
rodriquez
My grandparents built a santa fe style house - nothing else like it.
But I was in Taco bell on 14th street and there are some posters in there Ted should steal from - actually the whole store is a trip.
Yeah, mix n match fashion people -
For example - take your favorite car commercial, replace the imagery but keep all the edits and angles.
You can if you want, but it takes the fun of discovery out of it for me.
I think Concrete is right about a food = style equation. Fast food: fat style.
But looks to me like Ted's a fussy eater.
Well the colors are definite - Disney stole From parish and everything else romantic and old world.
The real Santa Fe palette (not the postmodern one) is nice - pastels in bluegreen sage, iron oxide sand orange - those are compliments and then the sandia mountains at sunset pink, cumulonimbus prussian blue.
Yeah, color is nice.
Is the "BLT" phase next?
'oral to optical and back again', right old guy, those small chambers of horrors, Freud?
i'm seeing a micro/ macro pull: journey to the center of the earth/ fantastic voyage
as for freudian body parts-- gotta say womb-like: The American Landscape as Decorated Womb... if it triggers taste buds, well
Old guy, love to see that on a t-shirt "Too Small for The Mall"
Do we have a fear of excess here on PainNYC? One more thin mint, puritans...
I'm thinking of starting a Guided By Voices cover band called Too Small For The Mall
Confessions of an arfterdinnermintfreak: where a six-pack of thin mints still wouldn't do the job.
Hey Concrete, I never figured you as an Octoberist.
But if you look at the enlarged version of Mineo’s work (http://www.tedmineo.com/IMAGES/happy.jpg) there is definitely this lush, ‘ripe’ (fruity?) quality to the colour, and the strange Disney architecture, it strikes me as an advertiser’s block booking – you know, where, if you like these products, you might like to check out the spin-offs, add-ons, and no cost extras.
The mention of VM was not just idle reminiscence.
Ted may have found his spiritual home there, or be trying to. My advice Ted is don’t go there, but if you have, don’t tell us.
Is it that sweet spot awaiting product placement? The perfect fantasyland where everything tastes yummy, sparkling or fizzy?
It’s an interesting subject, I suppose, but I wonder if the work can really talk about it, rather than just participate in it? Perhaps the small scale (relatively) is one way of distinguishing the thing from just product. Maybe a gallery context would sharpen it. Actually I can imagine them going really well with the full theatrical treatment – low lights, black carpet, etc.
Ted needs more VM, not less!
I’ve often thought installation was uncomfortably similar to VM. My conversations with dressers only confirmed this: they got stuff like Rhoades, right off! Cady was right there for them – Hirschhorn was bretheren, but they wondered whether that stuff wasn’t too esoteric for the rest of the populace.
They would definitely dig Mineo, but would he be too little or too much?
This work reads as nostalgia to me, probably when he was a kid and got pizza at the mall and then got a quarter and got a little eyeball out of a machine and then he went and bought one of those wizard type posters that is complete trompe(decieves me like crazy with its trompety trompe)-but done with an airbrush, and then wondered around and ended up looking at the covers of those teen romance novels and got an erection for a bit-.still, more flea market than mall to me..Its sad that what seems to stick out most is the dungeons and dragons stuff. I still don't react well to that imagery.
fear of excess?hey I liked the Sterling Ruby show at metro pictures. ted's not excessive enough yet for me
My thing about Yes and the kids on the bus had a point too. Ted is a Kid, and I think Poppy is closing in. This is like one of those flea market --burl wood sculpture --spray painted tee shirt--things--its juvenalia--its sweet love. Bite it.
i LOVE Sterling Ruby.
Juvenile Alpha-bits...
sterling ruby, can't seem to find enough online to form a good opinion..is there a good website to go to? reminds me of Polke so far.
I went to the mall and I don't have much nostalgia for it anywhere - the manhattan mall is particularly dull. Not sure why you'd want to wallow in that other than the fact that your relatives do, so its unavoidable at some social level. Certainly you wouldn't hang out with anyone who shopped for tchotchkies in a mall-like setting, open air or highrise.
Then your kid comes back because the ten dollars you gave them went into Gauntlet or Darius (I'm dating myself here) and and the kid is thirsty, because the mall is bone dry, so he goes to Orange Julius, but the blender just broke.
In the ensuing crying fit you wonder if it might be better if the kid came from a broken home, because you never wanted kids anyway. They cost as much as a Ferarri or more likely a Corvette.
Summertime is here.
You should hang out with some kids sometime. Also wierd relatives are horrible yet fascinating. Ted is holding our feet to the fire. Something about fighting the man and being the man?
My kids dont have crying fits. In public. They are cool. Worth the price of admission.
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