I am going on vacation a cross ½ country trip and I won’t be able to post from the road without my laptop. It is still having problems, but I will try. Everything will be back on Tuesday. Have a good holiday if you celebrate one.
not good when another artist comes to mind. i went to the amy sillman show, whose work i generally dig, and could only think that joanne greenbaum does it better. . . same case here, only e. peyton, not j. greenbaum. . .
these are going for 18-20,000$ They actually look better in the jpeg, but seeing his whole ouvre in the catalogue for some reason lessened my grudge against the work
thx for the ad forum page 6 link, clearly there is a link i feel somewhere i have run across this very painting and thought it was EP... moma or gavins maybe..
i am ignorant to sullivans history so i ask, fully knowing the stupidity of the question...can he paint well?
for argument i will assume he cant... the differences between sullivan and hockney and Murakami are great, sullivan "cant paint". hockney does not maint or didnt paint in a faux nieve way (what the hell is that)...he simply styleized his subject matter. he went through many styles oe moments to arrive at his current place...many contemporary painters skip all of the other steps and flex their inability to paint by 'fitting in' with the now. {this has value, but different than that of hockney who arrived at this by much styleistic sculpting}.
murakami is very clear in his intention (along with Nara). have you all read the superflat? read the essays in the superflat catalogue, it explains their relation to pop japanese culture and what they are trying to say with their paintings and sculptures. they DO have a clear statement/reason. i often get the feeling that many contemporary U.S painters are just passive with their aesthetic...just using it for its Hip factor.
Though Sullivan is not a major artist, his work can be surprising at times. Pieces of color loom, leaving punched-out spaces at odds with the French-inspired palette (think Alice Neel's portrait of Linda Nochlin). He is a member of the light and space school, a la Hockney, Peyton, et al.
There are lots of cartoonists out there who are not called cartoonists.
Just saying.
Hockney is gay? OMG. I'm seeling my framed museum poster right now. Splish splash i was taking a bath...you know the one. Just kidding. Not into most of it. But I can dig it. Hockney is like the Elton John of art? I like to think so.
Sir Elton John.
But DH declined knighthood in 1990, apparently. THink of all the parties he wont get invited to...not a night.
wierd. i just went to see the folks, there in town for easter, cleaning the disco up... clean clean.... so thier hotel... = the whole room was art, which me mum was hatten on (prints) golden! so i was able to use the peyton to spring board heilmann which inturn explained the 15 story lewitt. peyton is good. billy s as well.
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I am going on vacation a cross ½ country trip and I won’t be able to post from the road without my laptop. It is still having problems, but I will try. Everything will be back on Tuesday. Have a good holiday if you celebrate one.
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have a nice trip painter!
i thought it was Elizabeth Peyton
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not good when another artist comes to mind. i went to the amy sillman show, whose work i generally dig, and could only think that joanne greenbaum does it better. . . same case here, only e. peyton, not j. greenbaum. . .
Some lady spit on a subway passenger today -
Schadenfreud is awesome, second to getting paid.
There's a 19 year age difference between Peyton and Sullivan right?
Thats the age of the average Vietnam grunt...how do i know that.
I just can't be happy today. Or I can.
Joanne Greenbaum is growing on me. Stilll not convinced by the doodles though.
these are going for 18-20,000$ They actually look better in the jpeg, but seeing his whole ouvre in the catalogue for some reason lessened my grudge against the work
thx for the ad forum page 6 link, clearly there is a link
i feel somewhere i have run across this very painting and thought it was EP... moma or gavins maybe..
Yes, but Hockney draws with a lot more snap & crackle.
i am ignorant to sullivans history so i ask, fully knowing the stupidity of the question...can he paint well?
for argument i will assume he cant...
the differences between sullivan and hockney and Murakami are great, sullivan "cant paint". hockney does not maint or didnt paint in a faux nieve way (what the hell is that)...he simply styleized his subject matter. he went through many styles oe moments to arrive at his current place...many contemporary painters skip all of the other steps and flex their inability to paint by 'fitting in' with the now. {this has value, but different than that of hockney who arrived at this by much styleistic sculpting}.
murakami is very clear in his intention (along with Nara). have you all read the superflat? read the essays in the superflat catalogue, it explains their relation to pop japanese culture and what they are trying to say with their paintings and sculptures. they DO have a clear statement/reason. i often get the feeling that many contemporary U.S painters are just passive with their aesthetic...just using it for its Hip factor.
when i say hockney 'styleized' hios subject matter i meant he painted them in a particular (to him) styleized way.
Though Sullivan is not a major artist, his work can be surprising at times. Pieces of color loom, leaving punched-out spaces at odds with the French-inspired palette (think Alice Neel's portrait of Linda Nochlin). He is a member of the light and space school, a la Hockney, Peyton, et al.
yes mr w, developed....it was late when i was writting that and thoughts and words were slipery.
There are lots of cartoonists out there who are not called cartoonists.
Just saying.
Hockney is gay? OMG. I'm seeling my framed museum poster right now. Splish splash i was taking a bath...you know the one. Just kidding. Not into most of it. But I can dig it. Hockney is like the Elton John of art? I like to think so.
Sir Elton John.
But DH declined knighthood in 1990, apparently.
THink of all the parties he wont get invited to...not a night.
wierd. i just went to see the folks, there in town for easter, cleaning the disco up... clean clean.... so thier hotel... = the whole room was art, which me mum was hatten on (prints) golden! so i was able to use the peyton to spring board heilmann which inturn explained the 15 story lewitt. peyton is good. billy s as well.
thats kina cool
Saw his stuff online and yeah there's definitely Peyton, Hockney and Matisse in these paintings. For me that's the problem. Nothing screams Sullivan.
Insouciance can be refreshing.
you're right ec. Light and dark are both worth representing in painting.
i think for the issues this work is addressing are not those this thread is using to crit.
I'm trying to find images of a painting by Sullivan that I really love. It's called "Clams and Lemon" can anyone help me?
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