Is Fred Tomaselli just phoning it in these days? He is certainly not pushing. Can someone choose a piece from this show and stand up for its attributes as being better or worse than any other piece in the exhibition? I had a friend in school who did this type of work and he was completely dismissed. That said, craft is excellent, compositions are not as spatially oriented as previous works. It seems kind of like a filler show. you know what I mean?
I find his imagery delightful as always. I have some problem with the surface of his work. It's just too tight and closed in. Surface quality just seems like one of the most important things in painting. Surface needs to sparkle and be pourous, to let you in. These sanded and buffed resin surfaces don't breathe--they keep me out. They remind me of a surfboard or a car. Too industrial?
it would be nice to see some real work posted on this site instead of halloween masks and the how-many-eyeballs-do you have painting. there is good work out there. there are artists who are really thinking about space, color, form. they are few and far between but it would be nice to see a little of that instead of the mindless nonsense that is unfortunately getting more gallery time and space.
the pill stuf was exciting,especially the sort of sub atomic designs-its hard to maintain that novelty-this one reminds me of a 70s junoir high schoolers self made room decoration,but some others in show are ok-er
Things tend to be extremely chelsea centric, which makes it difficult at times to discuss painting.
I would be interested in seeing what people had to say about Josh smith seeing he has Glam status at the moment you could do the christopher wool george condo albert oehlen thing.
of course you will do the fiona rae?
The horror of the arturo herrera show?
The royal academy show?
a mix up would be nice,
what about the Thomas Cole show at the historical society
The vollard show?
I just feel that at times there is so little substance to discuss with all of the shows in chelsea, it just becomes gut: like it or hate it
van gogh at the neue next year.
is the blog specifically designed for what was painted yesterday? by that I mean literally like 5 minutes ago
Batswap. Thanks for your suggestions. I have just posted albert oehlen and I posted Condo twice. I like posting shows that are currently up in NYC in hopes that people will go see the shows. This blog is focused on work being shown and made in NYC.
You said Things that "arent cool" I don't get that comment. Is that meant for things shown in Chelsea. I do post work shown in Brooklyn and downtown and uptown. If it being shown in NY and I hear about it and think some discussion can be had on it I will post it.
Dont misconstrue my things that arent cool comment, by that I mean things that dont fit into the hedgemony. I think Larissa bates was a good go at that etc. It is not a dig, just that there are things out there that dont necessarily fit the correct context. Certainly not a dig at Chelsea. As a newcomer to this blog, I supposed that (as there is no definition or description on the title page) that painters nyc meant painters from nyc. I was incorrect. I dont think the royal academy show would be too far a stretch as people know the work, and could see what the rest of the world thinks america is about.
I suppose when I say not cool I mean things that are just random sometimes, that arent supported to death by correct references, rather than the merit of what they are.
Or the name might well be changed to "Fashion painters nyc."
"there are artists who are really thinking about space, color, form. "
There are also artists thinking about time, wavelengths and sanity.
Anyone walk through the Kosuth maze? It was painted, or sternciled letrasetted or whatever. How is that different than using collage and sanded resin?
Tomaselli allways reminded me of the seafood restaurant with the starfish and scallop shells embedded in the cable-spool tables. Or the route 66 tourist trap made out of empties and concrete. Or the funky bar with silver dollars and toy six shooters framing the liquor altar. Top shelf. You know what Im talking about.
Lots of artists use resin, for a day a week, a month or a career. SOme people make fancy surf boards or props (dont call it a movie). Theres a whole set of long Island surfers out there. Gives me a sculpture idea. I'll need a wave tank.
I see resin as a way to make collage valuable. Thats interesting in a sort of Gyro Gearloose meets Scrooge McDuck kind of way.
Another way to make something valuable is to invest time (obsession, love, paranoid schizophrenia, LSD) in it.
Permanence. That makes sense in the sense of mortality, but most people use resin non-metaphoricly I think.
WHich brings me to the topic of language.
Apparently there were some people locked in late modernism who thought of painting as a "language".
kalm james, how many years before this site discusses me?
in this time of the art wars, i will endure. occupation is the only successful tactic. the trenches are long and deep (some short and shallow, no doubt) but once your head rises up and is exposed to the cross hairs no one is safe.
I thought this piece was about plastic surgery. I like the hairy hand and the eyes as floating bubbles. ZIP said: "Tomaselli always reminded me of the seafood restaurant with the starfish and scallop shells embedded in the cable-spool tables. Or the route 66 tourist trap made out of empties and concrete. Or the funky bar with silver dollars and toy six shooters framing the liquor altar. Top shelf. You know what Im talking about."--- Yes!I always liked looking at those table tops under my beer.
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Is Fred Tomaselli just phoning it in these days? He is certainly not pushing. Can someone choose a piece from this show and stand up for its attributes as being better or worse than any other piece in the exhibition? I had a friend in school who did this type of work and he was completely dismissed. That said, craft is excellent, compositions are not as spatially oriented as previous works. It seems kind of like a filler show. you know what I mean?
The Fig Tree times article said it all - he is approching his work like a Garden
I find his imagery delightful as always. I have some problem with the surface of his work. It's just too tight and closed in. Surface quality just seems like one of the most important things in painting. Surface needs to sparkle and be pourous, to let you in. These sanded and buffed resin surfaces don't breathe--they keep me out. They remind me of a surfboard or a car. Too industrial?
Re the garden: Double dig Fred--I guarantee its worth it!
it would be nice to see some real work posted on this site instead of halloween masks and the how-many-eyeballs-do you have painting. there is good work out there. there are artists who are really thinking about space, color, form. they are few and far between but it would be nice to see a little of that instead of the mindless nonsense that is unfortunately getting more gallery time and space.
the pill stuf was exciting,especially the sort of sub atomic designs-its hard to maintain that novelty-this one reminds me of a 70s junoir high schoolers self made room decoration,but some others in show are ok-er
Artgirl
Who would you like to see specifically that I have not posted yet?
What about Kaye Donachie?
Things tend to be extremely chelsea centric, which makes it difficult at times to discuss painting.
I would be interested in seeing what people had to say about Josh smith seeing he has Glam status at the moment you could do the christopher wool george condo albert oehlen thing.
of course you will do the fiona rae?
The horror of the arturo herrera show?
The royal academy show?
a mix up would be nice,
what about the Thomas Cole show at the historical society
The vollard show?
I just feel that at times there is so little substance to discuss with all of the shows in chelsea, it just becomes gut: like it or hate it
van gogh at the neue next year.
is the blog specifically designed for what was painted yesterday?
by that I mean literally like 5 minutes ago
Things that "arent cool"
katy moran at stuart shave modern art london?
I suppose we cant "see" that though
how do people feel about discussing so much of this work without actually seeing it?
It doesnt seem to hold people back from making "authoritative"comments.
Batswap.
Thanks for your suggestions.
I have just posted albert oehlen and I posted Condo twice. I like posting shows that are currently up in NYC in hopes that people will go see the shows. This blog is focused on work being shown and made in NYC.
You said Things that "arent cool"
I don't get that comment. Is that meant for things shown in Chelsea. I do post work shown in Brooklyn and downtown and uptown. If it being shown in NY and I hear about it and think some discussion can be had on it I will post it.
This site is called PainterNYC
NYC stands for New York City the art capital of the world.
ah yes, my bad.
Dont misconstrue my things that arent cool comment, by that I mean things that dont fit into the hedgemony. I think Larissa bates was a good go at that etc. It is not a dig, just that there are things out there that dont necessarily fit the correct context. Certainly not a dig at Chelsea. As a newcomer to this blog, I supposed that (as there is no definition or description on the title page) that painters nyc meant painters from nyc.
I was incorrect.
I dont think the royal academy show would be too far a stretch as people know the work, and could see what the rest of the world thinks america is about.
I suppose when I say not cool I mean things that are just random sometimes, that arent supported to death by correct references, rather than the merit of what they are.
Or the name might well be changed to "Fashion painters nyc."
dangerous territory to be sure.
"there are artists who are really thinking about space, color, form. "
There are also artists thinking about time, wavelengths and sanity.
Anyone walk through the Kosuth maze? It was painted, or sternciled letrasetted or whatever. How is that different than using collage and sanded resin?
Tomaselli allways reminded me of the seafood restaurant with the starfish and scallop shells embedded in the cable-spool tables. Or the route 66 tourist trap made out of empties and concrete. Or the funky bar with silver dollars and toy six shooters framing the liquor altar. Top shelf. You know what Im talking about.
Lots of artists use resin, for a day a week, a month or a career. SOme people make fancy surf boards or props (dont call it a movie). Theres a whole set of long Island surfers out there. Gives me a sculpture idea. I'll need a wave tank.
I see resin as a way to make collage valuable. Thats interesting in a sort of Gyro Gearloose meets Scrooge McDuck kind of way.
Another way to make something valuable is to invest time (obsession, love, paranoid schizophrenia, LSD) in it.
Permanence. That makes sense in the sense of mortality, but most people use resin non-metaphoricly I think.
WHich brings me to the topic of language.
Apparently there were some people locked in late modernism who thought of painting as a "language".
How do you FEEL about that?
That is what I thought, a pissing contest not an actual discussion.
Ill log back in in 26 millennia
I am the third node up and left, on the right
fractals brah, digame!
its not piss, its "virtual urine" and im marking the rhyzome, but not rhyzome.com because those dudes are wack.
i thought only collage students thought the Artworld should be egalitarian.
if you liked kelly likes shoes you'll love text message breakup
you won't beleve the shit i will blogg about you.
Insn't it the law of the jungle that all animals shall be able to drink peacfully at the watering hole?
these kids these days think their hunting al queda
here
The colber report Herbie Hancock one was great too.
Kashmir!
alexi worth just closed, david fertig recently opened. sarah mceneaney is also good, but it has been a while since that show closed.
kalm james - wow, that is something! are you writing a paper? what about race? very interesting.
kalm james,
how many years before this site discusses me?
in this time of the art wars, i will endure. occupation is the only successful tactic. the trenches are long and deep (some short and shallow, no doubt) but once your head rises up and is exposed to the cross hairs no one is safe.
26thousand years....
omg, party. its fun. its a fun relaxing image that it looks like whomever had fun with. fun.
I just came from this show. Basically just more of the same FT, as much as I like his work.
Are these paintings?
The resin surface always annoyed me a bit. I also wish he would move away from the black/dark grounds. Bring it into the light.
this seems like a ligher work i swear i saw sum of dis before, the larger ones...
You will find the road
how long we gotta wait? he's already 50
As mentioned a long time ago....the surface, the surface. Too impersonal for me and I'm a fan; I like his imagery.
I thought this piece was about plastic surgery. I like the hairy hand and the eyes as floating bubbles.
ZIP said:
"Tomaselli always reminded me of the seafood restaurant with the starfish and scallop shells embedded in the cable-spool tables. Or the route 66 tourist trap made out of empties and concrete. Or the funky bar with silver dollars and toy six shooters framing the liquor altar. Top shelf. You know what Im talking about."--- Yes!I always liked looking at those table tops under my beer.
Chelsea: The Art and Commerce of One Hot Block
shhh money
It reminds me of the remainders of a warehouse sized garage sale being hawked on the Santa Monica pier in a plastic frame.
i think the surface should contain flavor crystals, if you know what I mean.
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