i know that there is some kind of dave miko fan club on this blog because i've seen his name before here w/ praise. i dont want to offend anyone who is a friend of his but to be honest i really disliked the show he has up now. i found it clunky, unconvincing, and student-y. and all of that NOT in a good way. he's probably charming and nice but i really disliked the work.
I'm a new anonymous (and new to blogging in general -- so I hope i'm posting this right)... and just a passer-by (so I'll prob. not take part further), but his work commands a certain economy in paint... that I find charming - an american counterpart to Sasnal or Adach, - A nod to what paint can graphically and minimally achieve, and a nod to the cheapness of paint...(of course the latters enjoy the irony of playing their cheap-chic paintings against the weightiness of their political texts or subject matters) This raises an issue, for me at least, that hasn't really been touched (I think) in this forum... And that is: What effect, if any, has Sasnal, Adach or of course Tuymans, had on young NY painters, stylistically or otherwise? Miko seems to be in their wake, stylistically. So far on this blog, I've seen more references (reverences) to the folksy elders, Nordstrom/Anderson.
Not that I find the 'elders' at all illuminating politically... I read writers for that... and I think that Tuyman's titling shtick gets in the way of his paintings, and so I'm interested in any stylistic threads....
In an unrelated note -- what's this reverence towards Katz in this blog? Please explain (?)
Anonymous above, this blog does not stand for anything like "go Alex Katz". Some people have said they like him, end of story. You should keep coming back here and there to change the tone of the conversation to these more "relevant" concerns like the cheapness of paint, the Tuymans effect (yawn). You are probably right about Miko, that he is working in the wake of Sasnal and his Polish pals. All of whom were spawned from Tuymans. Economy of marks, reference to photography, sure I can see it. But a lot of this work looks generic, with the exception of Tuymans and Sasnal. It's a style that lends itself to laziness, both in the skills dept. and content.
Not saying this necessarily applies to Miko, because I haven't seen the show yet, but I think you bring up some interesting points. You should come back, anon.
Anonymous above above, why do you choose to tell us you won't be back? No one will notice. There are so many anonymous commenters, that you think you have a special voice is very funny.
It's hard to tell about this painting as it is very dark. I like the blue siding.
i cant think of anything less sasnal/tuymans-y than miko. they're small but the comparison ends there. the whole point of sasnal and tuymans (& school of) is cropping, leaving things out, shorthand, brevity, a kind of sophisticated elegance. nothing could be less elegant or sophisticated looking than these paintings by dave miko where all sorts of details are crammed in. like the one pictured here. all this attention to the red wall, the blue wall, the stuff inside the little window, all the details of stonework and clouds-- i cant think of a more different approach than the sasnal/tuymans one. also i dont like miko's colors. murky and dull.
Excellent point anon about cropping and lack of detail being the tell-tale signs of work that is photo-derived on purpose. This painting in all its clotted detail seems to have more in common with the folksy elders that at first glance. All that detail reveals a specific hand, which has more to do with subjectivity and the strangeness that WW talks about.
I am curious where the artists stands on this point.
for me, miko is like a southern folk artist tripping out on forest bess while trying to unlearn academic painting. it's like social realism that features mostly inanimate objects and animals. you can't tell from this image, but the car has some really heavy directional brushwork. he paints on aluminum, so there's a weird iridescent quality too. they're awkward, and at first too provincial looking, but then they really charm you. plus i have a crush on dave.
I didn't like these when i passed through quickly at the opening or in other group shows. my thought was that the person (who is quite cute and seemingly sweet) may be blindingly seductive and that elevates his work to the those swayed by his charms. but i frequently respond to w.w.'s comments and i think sasnal is amazing with how much he stretches out of so little! i will check out the show again.
now i've cultivated some weird collective cyber crush on dave! but he is not a bigger presence than the work by any stretch. i didn't mean to turn the conversation toward his personality. though it is as nonconventional as his painting, he does not overshadow the work.
the best thing about dave's paintings is that they are genuine. he is someone who loves bringing ideas to life with paint. he is not trying to be a hipster. check out the show again!
I don't know this artist's work. Is there someplace I can see it in the flesh?
This painting is intriguing - I like the way the clouds crash into the earth, and the windblown/battered loneliness of the setting. In terms of subject matter I'm thinking Whiting Tennis, but way more felt/less graphic.
i think real names should be the new anonymous. wish i could be in NY to see dave's show. i like his work, and i like him, very much. congratulations dave.
Sorry I have not seen the show. I have been following Dave's work for a while now.....I think the paintings he makes are really good. Real -hardworking artist. he is very versatile with subject matter so i think it is best to see many works at once. Cheers to Miko!
So all the murk and white in the paiinting is faux naive? Dark jpg? I hated making color wheels, so I'm down with black and white straight as well as that prussian blue/burnt umber trick...red and green....and paines grey!
If I go and see them in person will I be dissapointed by actual attention to color theory? Or can I bask in decadent non-caring?
...the jpg does make me think of rural at dusk tho...moody. It works!
Miko like most painting is best enjoyed live. the medium does always change the message and mixing media, paint and digital reporduction and broadcast is a huge streach. but this blog is about conversation, ideas, information about the painter, and painting the jpeg of the day is simply to focus the discussion and it is working well-i enjoy it
TO ONE WHO LOVED NOT POETRY to the one who loves not poetry
Thou liest dead, and there will be no memory left behind Of thee or thine in all the earth, for never didst thou bind The roses of Pierian streams upon thy brow; thy doom Is now to flit with unknown ghosts in cold and nameless gloom.
I like the composition - so much so that I've used it myself, if I may say so, myself, though I went over the hills and far away...Many many men can't see the open road.
Its the closed in quality of the walls framing the open space - you can see it!
I can't wait until this painter gets into the Met and has his own silkscreened 44 oz. Stein. Because I imagine its German sugar beat farmers worked that farm.
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Whoa! Barn, dirt, sky and a messed up hunka junk. This guy's heavy, man.
Dave Miko spelled backwards is OK Im Evad.
Whoa.
i know that there is some kind of dave miko fan club on this blog because i've seen his name before here w/ praise. i dont want to offend anyone who is a friend of his but to be honest i really disliked the show he has up now. i found it clunky, unconvincing, and student-y. and all of that NOT in a good way. he's probably charming and nice but i really disliked the work.
I'm a new anonymous (and new to blogging in general -- so I hope i'm posting this right)... and just a passer-by (so I'll prob. not take part further), but his work commands a certain economy in paint... that I find charming - an american counterpart to Sasnal or Adach, - A nod to what paint can graphically and minimally achieve, and a nod to the cheapness of paint...(of course the latters enjoy the irony of playing their cheap-chic paintings against the weightiness of their political texts or subject matters) This raises an issue, for me at least, that hasn't really been touched (I think) in this forum... And that is: What effect, if any, has Sasnal, Adach or of course Tuymans, had on young NY painters, stylistically or otherwise? Miko seems to be in their wake, stylistically. So far on this blog, I've seen more references (reverences) to the folksy elders, Nordstrom/Anderson.
Not that I find the 'elders' at all illuminating politically... I read writers for that... and I think that Tuyman's titling shtick gets in the way of his paintings, and so I'm interested in any stylistic threads....
In an unrelated note -- what's this reverence towards Katz in this blog? Please explain (?)
I love Dave Miko. His paintings are as weird and wonderful as his personality.
Anonymous above, this blog does not stand for anything like "go Alex Katz". Some people have said they like him, end of story. You should keep coming back here and there to change the tone of the conversation to these more "relevant" concerns like the cheapness of paint, the Tuymans effect (yawn). You are probably right about Miko, that he is working in the wake of Sasnal and his Polish pals. All of whom were spawned from Tuymans. Economy of marks, reference to photography, sure I can see it. But a lot of this work looks generic, with the exception of Tuymans and Sasnal. It's a style that lends itself to laziness, both in the skills dept. and content.
Not saying this necessarily applies to Miko, because I haven't seen the show yet, but I think you bring up some interesting points. You should come back, anon.
Anonymous above above, why do you choose to tell us you won't be back? No one will notice. There are so many anonymous commenters, that you think you have a special voice is very funny.
It's hard to tell about this painting as it is very dark. I like the blue siding.
Question: Why is Tuymans not considered an "elder"? What constitutes "elder"?
respect yer elders, con sarn it!
Your all too talented to post as anonymous so stop hiding in the back of the room.
Yes'm.
Must check out this Dave Miko show to know. I am a sucker for barns so that's a start.
i cant think of anything less sasnal/tuymans-y than miko. they're small but the comparison ends there. the whole point of sasnal and tuymans (& school of) is cropping, leaving things out, shorthand, brevity, a kind of sophisticated elegance. nothing could be less elegant or sophisticated looking than these paintings by dave miko where all sorts of details are crammed in. like the one pictured here. all this attention to the red wall, the blue wall, the stuff inside the little window, all the details of stonework and clouds-- i cant think of a more different approach than the sasnal/tuymans one. also i dont like miko's colors. murky and dull.
if anything i would compare them to steve dibenedetto
Excellent point anon about cropping and lack of detail being the tell-tale signs of work that is photo-derived on purpose. This painting in all its clotted detail seems to have more in common with the folksy elders that at first glance. All that detail reveals a specific hand, which has more to do with subjectivity and the strangeness that WW talks about.
I am curious where the artists stands on this point.
for me, miko is like a southern folk artist tripping out on forest bess while trying to unlearn academic painting. it's like social realism that features mostly inanimate objects and animals. you can't tell from this image, but the car has some really heavy directional brushwork. he paints on aluminum, so there's a weird iridescent quality too. they're awkward, and at first too provincial looking, but then they really charm you. plus i have a crush on dave.
I didn't like these when i passed through quickly at the opening or in other group shows. my thought was that the person (who is quite cute and seemingly sweet) may be blindingly seductive and that elevates his work to the those swayed by his charms. but i frequently respond to w.w.'s comments and i think sasnal is amazing with how much he stretches out of so little! i will check out the show again.
yes i had exactly the same response as the anon above. i thought it was all about the GUY. not the work.
I want to meet this Dave Miko fellow.
now i've cultivated some weird collective cyber crush on dave! but he is not a bigger presence than the work by any stretch. i didn't mean to turn the conversation toward his personality. though it is as nonconventional as his painting, he does not overshadow the work.
the best thing about dave's paintings is that they are genuine. he is someone who loves bringing ideas to life with paint. he is not trying to be a hipster. check out the show again!
oh, and he's married to the lovely and talented poet and musician nellie bridge.
hands off!
I don't know this artist's work. Is there someplace I can see it in the flesh?
This painting is intriguing - I like the way the clouds crash into the earth, and the windblown/battered loneliness of the setting. In terms of subject matter I'm thinking Whiting Tennis, but way more felt/less graphic.
hmmm....I did an image search...does Dave fish?
Wallspace Gallery. Show is up until March 18.
i think real names should be the new anonymous. wish i could be in NY to see dave's show. i like his work, and i like him, very much. congratulations dave.
This does feel more honest...
Can we see a different image of his, painter?
http://www.wallspacegallery.com/miko.html#
Here is a link to his work at Wallspace. He has a show up there right now.
Sorry I have not seen the show. I have been following Dave's work for a while now.....I think the paintings he makes are really good. Real -hardworking artist. he is very versatile with subject matter so i think it is best to see many works at once.
Cheers to Miko!
So all the murk and white in the paiinting is faux naive? Dark jpg? I hated making color wheels, so I'm down with black and white straight as well as that prussian blue/burnt umber trick...red and green....and paines grey!
If I go and see them in person will I be dissapointed by actual attention to color theory? Or can I bask in decadent non-caring?
...the jpg does make me think of rural at dusk tho...moody.
It works!
the woods are lovely
dark and deep
that kind of moody?
i thought the show was incredibly sophisticated.
Looking at this terrible jpeg is more than a little disappointing.
Miko like most painting is best enjoyed live. the medium does always change the message and mixing media, paint and digital reporduction and broadcast is a huge streach. but this blog is about conversation, ideas, information about the painter, and painting the jpeg of the day is simply to focus the discussion and it is working well-i enjoy it
I've got a fever.
And the only cure is:
MORE COWBELL!
i like that there are a lot of painters here talking about painting and painters and people who like paintings get to listen in and comment as well
TO ONE WHO LOVED NOT POETRY
to the one who loves not poetry
Thou liest dead, and there will be no memory left behind
Of thee or thine in all the earth, for never didst thou bind
The roses of Pierian streams upon thy brow; thy doom
Is now to flit with unknown ghosts in cold and nameless gloom.
someone should paint that
TGIF! Ready for a FROST Mug! Hoot! Hoot!
I like the composition - so much so that I've used it myself, if I may say so, myself, though I went over the hills and far away...Many many men can't see the open road.
Its the closed in quality of the walls framing the open space - you can see it!
I can't wait until this painter gets into the Met and has his own silkscreened 44 oz. Stein. Because I imagine its German sugar beat farmers worked that farm.
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