tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post115549356533812277..comments2023-10-30T06:13:31.296-04:00Comments on PaintersNYC: Angela FraleighPainterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05087735650298480553noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1159686436657070692006-10-01T03:07:00.000-04:002006-10-01T03:07:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026153505404995756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155627836342195192006-08-15T03:43:00.000-04:002006-08-15T03:43:00.000-04:00Intriguingly complex: inevitable, dramatic, engagi...Intriguingly complex: inevitable, dramatic, engaging, repellant, seductive, superficial... I revel in the colors, yet keep regretting the associations they create (viewing the whole 2005 series at the artist’s website), then thinking these are creepily appropriate: Leroy Nieman, imaginary 60’s movie posters, surreal paperback romance covers (Jealousy! Betrayal! Domination! Obsession! The Inexpressible!)... And wishing the figure drawing was more consistently good, then thinking that the occasional clumsinesses are also quite fitting; lends a little thrill of cheapness to an otherwise totally “pro” performance. The paint splashing is very elegant and assured, first-class Madison-Ave. special effects. And the majestic hugeness adds yet another tasty pretension. I spent a nice long time with them... Didn’t take any screen grabs, but did bookmark; will want to see what’s next.David Page Coffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538959960447063231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155622370857330012006-08-15T02:12:00.000-04:002006-08-15T02:12:00.000-04:00ugly.ugly.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03014751431677271423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155606900810097872006-08-14T21:55:00.000-04:002006-08-14T21:55:00.000-04:00the creamy gloppiness,the pretty face-and gloss?th...the creamy gloppiness,the pretty face-and gloss?there's enough seductivity in the commercial world around us-an airless,unhealthy,sugariness-I personally want something tougher,and way less portentous-maybe thats just age or something-am tired of decadencearebourshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06129183347516811016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155598674118962652006-08-14T19:37:00.000-04:002006-08-14T19:37:00.000-04:00this work,and much else,now,is overly fussy,refine...this work,and much else,now,is overly fussy,refined and self conscious-the "loose"paint here is too pretty-no one can seem to relax-and this also seems to be a new cliche-figurative mixed w/"abstact"-we want it all?indecisive?arebourshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06129183347516811016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155587728253865462006-08-14T16:35:00.000-04:002006-08-14T16:35:00.000-04:00I odnt think a figure awash in a wilderness of pai...I odnt think a figure awash in a wilderness of pain t is sustainable as a career.<BR/>Unless that paint is exquisite.<BR/>Is it?zipthwunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761727194113640578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155583493371859482006-08-14T15:24:00.000-04:002006-08-14T15:24:00.000-04:00I kind of wonder if we did this artist a disserviv...I kind of wonder if we did this artist a disservive. Closeup and I were discussing issues tangentially related to the work but I don't know if a formal discussion is more appropriate to the intent. I like the image Closeup posted more. I'm dropping out- maybe others could offer more insight.kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026153505404995756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155582554285813292006-08-14T15:09:00.000-04:002006-08-14T15:09:00.000-04:00oh and Im still smarting from fifth grade when the...oh and Im still smarting from fifth grade when the poseur artist I shall call Nofreckles received recognition for a shitty crayon landscape. I mean two hills and a sun c'mon any fuckwit can do that. No SKILLS.zipthwunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761727194113640578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155582242591080182006-08-14T15:04:00.000-04:002006-08-14T15:04:00.000-04:00I meant "you" as in a general you. I could have sa...I meant "you" as in a general you. I could have said I, but my ego is a monster and I try not to refer to it. Gives it power. But Im glad you asked, gimme your thoughts, I'll feed on them.<BR/><BR/>Next up the Babylonian concept of Oneness.zipthwunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761727194113640578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155581759533124492006-08-14T14:55:00.001-04:002006-08-14T14:55:00.001-04:00Kalm James let's just agree to disagree.I don't di...Kalm James let's just agree to disagree.I don't disrespect your opinion but even within Modernism there were people like Malreaux who strongly disagreed. I don't think a painting is first of all an arrangment of forms and colors. Depending on the work or the historical period that is often the last thing it is.kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026153505404995756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155581612798999042006-08-14T14:53:00.000-04:002006-08-14T14:53:00.000-04:00A lot of paintings are good by accident. Sometimes...A lot of paintings are good by accident. Sometimes the end result or an individual's vision is more interesting than the concept or the genre.<BR/>I can think of a lot of artists like Corot who were good within predictable genres. Sometimes people do good work within a concept right before it dies. Thomas Tallis was the last significant medieval polyphonic composer before the Reformation washed that music away and he really was one of the best.kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026153505404995756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155580979484153892006-08-14T14:42:00.000-04:002006-08-14T14:42:00.000-04:00dharmabum - If you say there is no irony in this w...dharmabum - <BR/><BR/>If you say there is no irony in this work then you are discounting the author's ability to achieve a level of "distance" or abstract thought. <BR/><BR/>I think thats the crux of most art marketing right? How smart is the art on your wall? What group do yo belong to? Are the politics right? Does it fit with your style? Will it accrue value? Does it resonate with the group you aspire to be with, to SELL to? Does the work sell itself? FUCK NO! <BR/><BR/>"No authentic human life is possible without irony"-Kierkegaard<BR/><BR/>“Man is what he eats”<BR/>-Ludwig Feuerbachzipthwunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761727194113640578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155580412391134882006-08-14T14:33:00.001-04:002006-08-14T14:33:00.001-04:00These paintings arent good "by accident". The issu...These paintings arent good "by accident". The issue is that the art and cultural theory in the last 30 years hasnt much changed what it's like to walk down the street. <BR/><BR/>And people who make kick ass paintings usually take into account what its like to walk down the street.youth--lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766715817815803423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155580383961861622006-08-14T14:33:00.000-04:002006-08-14T14:33:00.000-04:00i wonder what effect the Saatchi USA shows and auc...i wonder what effect the Saatchi USA shows and auction dump will have on chelsea this season. <BR/><BR/>i don't know if i see the youth quake going away, younger kids are sexyer to molest.no-where-manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00420608393276593672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155579674764826052006-08-14T14:21:00.000-04:002006-08-14T14:21:00.000-04:00The Scarab is actually an ancient symbol of resure...The Scarab is actually an ancient symbol of resurection.<BR/>But anyway at least this stuff can get a rise out of me and torturing the helpless really works for me. If people base their whole ideology on the Bottom they can expect me to treat them accordingly. But formalism leaves me totally limp.<BR/>Anyway willing to experiment with formalism so here goes. Interesting neutral pallette and I like the way the brushtrokes break up.<BR/>No, still limp.And it doesn't apply to work that isn't based on that ideology.<BR/>Painter Zip was jumping on your furniture while you were out.kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026153505404995756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155578407834435082006-08-14T14:00:00.000-04:002006-08-14T14:00:00.000-04:00there's that hand againthere's that hand againyouth--lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766715817815803423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155576165686296052006-08-14T13:22:00.000-04:002006-08-14T13:22:00.000-04:00so I was watching Max--the movie about Hitler as a...so I was watching Max--the movie about Hitler as an artist and his jewish art dealer. Wow that was good, and funny. And sad.<BR/><BR/>Kitsch, yea right. The art dealer was yammering about kitsch until the moment they beat him dead.youth--lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766715817815803423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155575415838950102006-08-14T13:10:00.000-04:002006-08-14T13:10:00.000-04:00Will Cotton sans Maxfield Parish plus victoriana. ...Will Cotton sans Maxfield Parish plus victoriana. Rosenquist. <BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.show.me.uk/dbimages/chunked_image/2006_0228_230.JPG" REL="nofollow">vivre le commune! Vivre l'histoire!</A><BR/><BR/>AF: <BR/><BR/>I think it all comes down to belief. I mean, do you believe in this? That stretches across all art. I think there are also people who are attracted to two-dimensional things. Some people simply understand things better when they are presented in certain dimensions. It?s about suspension of disbelief. Can you really accept it and believe in it wholeheartedly? Sometimes it?s just a scribble on a piece of paper and sometimes it?s something you think about for five years.zipthwunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761727194113640578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155574534185025372006-08-14T12:55:00.000-04:002006-08-14T12:55:00.000-04:00for me,the eyes looking out directly,take her work...for me,the eyes looking out directly,take her work to the realm of kitscharebourshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06129183347516811016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155573912784281312006-08-14T12:45:00.000-04:002006-08-14T12:45:00.000-04:00Closeup I kind of like it with her work when the p...Closeup I kind of like it with her work when the painterly brushtrokes are like dark foliage and that combines with dark subject matter. It reminds me of Pre-Raphaelte painting. The other image you posted more than this one. The whole idea of bits of figuration floating in a painterly field is sort of predictable but almost by accident these are better than they should be.kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026153505404995756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155573825102308852006-08-14T12:43:00.000-04:002006-08-14T12:43:00.000-04:00I meant burlesque - not high burlesque. I was watc...I meant burlesque - not high burlesque. <BR/><BR/>I was watching parts of Milkmoney (1994) with Ed harris and Melanie Griffith. Thats a weird movie. <BR/><BR/>I also saw "Who wants to be a superhero" - thats how they should do "who wants to be an art star"<BR/><BR/>And no, there is no such thing as an authenbtic voice anymore.zipthwunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761727194113640578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155573157949761032006-08-14T12:32:00.000-04:002006-08-14T12:32:00.000-04:00THe paintings have serious formal art stuff -so fo...THe paintings have serious formal art stuff -so for me it becomes high burlesque.<BR/><BR/>Like watching a Roger Corman movie with an angry butch dyke.zipthwunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761727194113640578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155569845309570082006-08-14T11:37:00.000-04:002006-08-14T11:37:00.000-04:00ok kel--so what do you think about her paintings w...ok kel--so what do you think about her paintings with the man's hand around the womands throat? Unlike zip, my main thought about these paintings wasnt the jiz.youth--lesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04766715817815803423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155566945951880612006-08-14T10:49:00.000-04:002006-08-14T10:49:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026153505404995756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18710060.post-1155566844588611522006-08-14T10:47:00.000-04:002006-08-14T10:47:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.kellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14026153505404995756noreply@blogger.com