my cup of tea, but I AM looking at a jpeg. Mr.Peeps, do you think it was the way it was displayed? (lighting, space, etc.)
This sounds recondite but I have noticed that when paintings are neglected in one way or another they actually suffer a good view. I had this experience looking at a Rothko at MOCA.
Sometimes a show reveals just a little too much. In this case the primary colors and horizon lines in only a couple paintings are enough to break the spell. This work balances between austere abstraction (mapping) and cartoonish figures. Including a cartoon landscape piece with clouds makes either the artist or his dealer look unsure, like they don't trust the work enough. And that's too bad, because there is quite a bit here to like.
Reactionary and conservative. This stuff wont have any real liquidity but it will work as an instrument?
Take Mandelbrot, of chaos theory fame.
He worked for the research wing of IBM and studied chaotic systems like cotton prices.
Was he an artist? No. He was an employee of IBM.
Same with Pynchon. Pynchon was a technical writer before he quit to become an author. I mean he was an author, but technically he wasn't supposed to be writing on company time.
Maybe Im not a critic. Or even an artist. Radical doubt can do that to you. If you define doubt as "abscence". Then you cant even think, because then you are comitting an act of faith.
But chaos theory applies to systems. Im more interested in how this painting functions within the market than in the work itself.
Push pull figure ground is not a complete sentence. The fact is people don' talk that way anymore, because it really isn't useful for painting... like it would be more useful to talk like Cary Grant, or Kate Hepburn [ Quote: Acting is the most minor of gifts and not a very high-class way to earn a living. After all, Shirley Temple could do it at the age of four.].
Raoul does his own thing, makes gapping big mistakes, short-handedly, that work.
Its the same color as the Diva's Bood. Really, it looks just like the moment where she is bleeding to death all over Corbin Dallas. Its a pretty painting I think.
I still can't figure how they fit those four stones into that kinny woman though.
Take Whistler. He was rigourous. And yet his work often took only a day, a skip, and a jump to 200 guineas. A guinea is not a pig, you idiot, its a gold piece.
Is it worth it? In my economy of scale, no, 200 gold pieces can buy a lot of magic elixir, where other people make magic elixir just by smiling, and ice cubes with their subzero refrigerators.
... right, you guys are into bells and whistles, bells and whistles, I forgot! How about a bell, and the occasional whistle-- like a dong, and an hour or so of silence, dong, followed by a couple of faint whistles far off-like... http://www.shugoarts.com/en/maruyama.html I think zip-mist has the idea though. Is having the tea, even worth having the knack--to print gold, worth the gold the tea is printed on, if you can't pick it up in real life? It's a valid point of view, and it didn't take a gold penny to drop to get it. Anyway, heavy is just an old-fashion love song, its weight a burden, like the old-fashion penny. That's the problem with painting there are all these watchers waiting for that great thing to come along--but missing all the signs (because of love-can't shake it off--memory), ending in body/mind back circle to the old bar, with the guys, with the masks, with (what did kelli say?) 'gorilla masks', beating real chests, inebriated. And when the penny drops, who'd hear it? Who would care? That's the needlepoint! Gotta go paint a square--moving up!
Intergalactic planetary, another dimension right brah? Well Im about the ill communication.
Hell, I could take you through it step by step, explain why your story stinks, but I won't insult your intelligence. Well all right, first of all: This is a wrestling picture; the audience wants to see action, drama, wrestling, and plenty of it. They don't wanna see a guy wrestling with his soul - well, all right, a little bit, for the critics - but you make it the carrot that wags the dog. Too much of it and they head for exits and I don't blame 'em. There's plenty of poetry right inside that ring, Fink. Look at "Hell Ten Feet Square".
I think we are simply living through what is, creatively, a mediocre era. You know? I mean, I think art is probably dead, but then it comes back like some sort of Edgar allen Poe story.
From my perspective they are fragile, wonderfully empty, barely there kind of paintings. They make me feel sweetly melancholic...they are a wonderful precursor to Luc Tuymans. I see them as poetic like Tuttle or Partenheimer but heavier...or rather more sombre.
I think its Basically solid work, if you like this kind of stuff; I see them in relation to that silver ballet painter at Gavin Brown, but also weakly endebted(sic?) to Diebenkorn
Tuttle sees things formally mostly and then giggles them into hybridity. De Keyser works the other way, garnering notes and memoirs to recapitulate these exigencies into loosely formal arrangements: They generally work, and are fresh!
Hey cooky I returned mail last night, maybe check your junk mail.
Hey Cooky, Let me know the days you are in town and I'm sure we can meet, take in a show, drink, depending on the day. I work, but it's usually pretty light--depends on the day. Saturdays are out for the next few weeks. Let me know soon--! We'll work from there! Builders are here next week ripping the floors up so it may be congested here--but see what we can do! Nice ur here! Wasn't sure if you were just kidding!!:)
Raoul De Keyser @
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533 West 19th Street
NYC
my cup of tea, but I AM looking at a jpeg.
ReplyDeleteMr.Peeps, do you think it was the way it was displayed? (lighting, space, etc.)
This sounds recondite but I have noticed that when paintings are neglected in one way or another they actually suffer a good view.
I had this experience looking at a Rothko at MOCA.
the show read as sparce, like more growing pains then sublime.
ReplyDeletecause you were a slow Zwirner?...these works flip into Tuymans more abstract leanings...a similar sensibility in some regards.
ReplyDeleteSometimes a show reveals just a little too much. In this case the primary colors and horizon lines in only a couple paintings are enough to break the spell. This work balances between austere abstraction (mapping) and cartoonish figures. Including a cartoon landscape piece with clouds makes either the artist or his dealer look unsure, like they don't trust the work enough. And that's too bad, because there is quite a bit here to like.
ReplyDeleteHow far into termite-ville can a painter go? Before it's just too inconsequential?
ReplyDeleteReactionary and conservative. This stuff wont have any real liquidity but it will work as an instrument?
ReplyDeleteTake Mandelbrot, of chaos theory fame.
He worked for the research wing of IBM and studied chaotic systems like cotton prices.
Was he an artist? No. He was an employee of IBM.
Same with Pynchon. Pynchon was a technical writer before he quit to become an author. I mean he was an author, but technically he wasn't supposed to be writing on company time.
Maybe Im not a critic. Or even an artist. Radical doubt can do that to you. If you define doubt as "abscence". Then you cant even think, because then you are comitting an act of faith.
But chaos theory applies to systems. Im more interested in how this painting functions within the market than in the work itself.
Unarguably fascinating and resonant.
Push pull figure ground is not a complete sentence.
ReplyDeleteThe fact is people don' talk that way anymore, because it really isn't useful for painting... like it would be more useful to talk like Cary Grant, or Kate Hepburn [ Quote: Acting is the most minor of gifts and not a very high-class way to earn a living. After all, Shirley Temple could do it at the age of four.].
Raoul does his own thing, makes gapping big mistakes, short-handedly, that work.
Its the same color as the Diva's Bood. Really, it looks just like the moment where she is bleeding to death all over Corbin Dallas. Its a pretty painting I think.
ReplyDeleteI still can't figure how they fit those four stones into that kinny woman though.
thinking, I am!
ReplyDeletebeauty
ReplyDeleteis often in the eye of the beholder.
Take Whistler. He was rigourous. And yet his work often took only a day, a skip, and a jump to 200 guineas. A guinea is not a pig, you idiot, its a gold piece.
Is it worth it? In my economy of scale, no, 200 gold pieces can buy a lot of magic elixir, where other people make magic elixir just by smiling, and ice cubes with their subzero refrigerators.
put food on your family
ReplyDeleteHaha
ReplyDeletehope
... right, you guys are into bells and whistles, bells and whistles, I forgot! How about a bell, and the occasional whistle-- like a dong, and an hour or so of silence, dong, followed by a couple of faint whistles far off-like...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.shugoarts.com/en/maruyama.html
I think zip-mist has the idea though. Is having the tea, even worth having the knack--to print gold, worth the gold the tea is printed on, if you can't pick it up in real life? It's a valid point of view, and it didn't take a gold penny to drop to get it. Anyway, heavy is just an old-fashion love song, its weight a burden, like the old-fashion penny.
That's the problem with painting there are all these watchers waiting for that great thing to come along--but missing all the signs (because of love-can't shake it off--memory), ending in body/mind back circle to the old bar, with the guys, with the masks, with (what did kelli say?) 'gorilla masks', beating real chests, inebriated. And when the penny drops, who'd hear it? Who would care? That's the needlepoint! Gotta go paint a square--moving up!
The sci fi channel takes classic plots and then produces movies with b list actors and pretty groovy special effects.
ReplyDeleteThe last one I saw was like 1984. But its now almost 2007.
I wouldnt mind being in that loop.
Intergalactic planetary, another dimension right brah? Well Im about the ill communication.
ReplyDeleteHell, I could take you through it step by step, explain why your story stinks, but I won't insult your intelligence. Well all right, first of all: This is a wrestling picture; the audience wants to see action, drama, wrestling, and plenty of it. They don't wanna see a guy wrestling with
his soul - well, all right, a little bit, for the
critics - but you make it the carrot that wags the
dog. Too much of it and they head for exits and I
don't blame 'em. There's plenty of poetry right
inside that ring, Fink. Look at "Hell Ten Feet
Square".
LOU
"Blood, Sweat, and Canvas".
I get Tuttle, but I don't get these.
ReplyDeleteim more into realism
ReplyDeleteyou know, first person shooter.
I think we are simply living through what is, creatively, a mediocre era. You know? I mean, I think art is probably dead, but then it comes back like some sort of Edgar allen Poe story.
ReplyDeleteonly the moralizing of finch would make this area mediocre. i see alot of grade A.
ReplyDeleteFrom my perspective they are fragile, wonderfully empty, barely there kind of paintings. They make me feel sweetly melancholic...they are a wonderful precursor to Luc Tuymans. I see them as poetic like Tuttle or Partenheimer but heavier...or rather more sombre.
ReplyDeleteTuyman is the antichrist.
ReplyDeleteI see blue and white. Does this mean I know nothing?
Lets discuss who is the contemporary artist antichrist.
@Brent drop me a line cookyblaha@yahoo.com
ReplyDeleteきんじょにいるよ。
I think its easy to lose sight of the fact that any decade, or millenium or second, theres something going on that Finch hasnt heard of.
ReplyDeleteMelancholy is fine. I dont find it hard to evoke that feeling though.
One way it to leave your tupperware to dry in the sun and then smash it top bits and form letters with the negative spaces.
I think its Basically solid work, if you like this kind of stuff; I see them in relation to that silver ballet painter at Gavin Brown, but also weakly endebted(sic?) to Diebenkorn
ReplyDeleteTuttle sees things formally mostly and then giggles them into hybridity. De Keyser works the other way, garnering notes and memoirs to recapitulate these exigencies into loosely formal arrangements: They generally work, and are fresh!
ReplyDeleteHey cooky I returned mail last night, maybe check your junk mail.
ReplyDeleteHey Cooky,
Let me know the days you are in town and I'm sure we can meet, take in a show, drink, depending on the day. I work, but it's usually pretty light--depends on the day. Saturdays are out for the next few weeks.
Let me know soon--!
We'll work from there! Builders are here next week ripping the floors up so it may be congested here--but see what we can do! Nice ur here! Wasn't sure if you were just kidding!!:)
so slow it is nyc goverment processed.
ReplyDeletei agree chico, but abstraction does read to the outside world.
ReplyDeleteMind made of midas.
ReplyDeleteHook line and sinker.
lead head
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
ReplyDeleteI love the outside world. do you? every time I pick up an art material I think...look out outside world and I paint my art out.
ReplyDeleteThe veil
ReplyDeletebetween what's called heart
and the real evil
TV cameras and goons
monitor constant rebellion
whispers, life —
sustaining schemes
Everyone listens
for their turn
like Shaharazad
keep the axe away another day
Listening and telling
learning how
but never the same again
inside or outside
utterly clear
about the real evil
and what is called heart
Oprah!
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