If this guy didn't have such a great 'hand' I'd think he were a hack. It adopts the plasticity of the fashion-plates and the vain; along with the Mr. Potato Head victim-hood of hipsters. He makes the models look retarded. I’m not sure what side of the fence Yi is on as he doesn’t seem to have any other approach other than making goofy faces (which I love but don’t respect).
I need to see these in person. Painter, do you know if there there collaged elements in these? I like the disparate quality of the facial features, and the herky-jerky pieced together look of some of the images on the Boesky site. But I worry that they're a bit too tasteful looking, especially color-wise. They have the feel of a color-aid design project. I feel like I want them to be more distressing to look at.
this is schmaltzy - even for Boesky. I like Barnaby Furnas... there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why this guy sometimes goes flat, sometimes goes with modeling, sometimes with collage, different levels of abstraction in the figures... and with a super-nondescript image. Doesn't do anything for me.
a question for everyone: are these illustrations? i feel like ive seen VERY similar work in Rolling Stone magazine. i get the feeling that this work looks better in reproduction than it does in person...what do you all feel the difference between an 'illustration' and a pice of 'art' is?
Painter - i am sure there are many good painters living in nyc that AREN'T exhibiting, would you consider showing some of them? the market is getting depressing.
i saw this show... very very very briefly.
p.s. - remember that dream you told me about? it didn't come true, but your encouragement was sweet.
Martin, that's a great idea. There are indeed so many excellent artists who show seldom or not at all, or who do show but their work is sort of ignored. I do think it's important to comment on artists who are big right now, and some of them are great, but depressingly, many of them are more trendy than really interesting. It's encouraging that so many of us on this blog seem to recognise these artists when they are posted, and it would be interesting to see who Painter might come up with to counter that trendiness. We could also brainstorm here. . .
Robert Bordo David Humphrey Elena Sisto Carrie Moyer Nancy Friedemann Susanna Coffey Anoka Faruqee Catherine Murphy Jeffrey Saldinger Charley Friedman
i really like your comments and your attitude JD. especially love seeing artist's artists like andrew spence gregory green marilyn lerner getting some attention here!
This work is very identifiable and does have a painterly quality in person. I haven't seen much of his work in person but at art fairs it always catches my eye.
Can we try and be more constructive. I love to look at this blog but then the comments feel dirty and wrong. The artist do read this as we see them come on time to time.
Painter I would suggest you delete comments that lack the quality of your blog.
constructive. i think chen is very talented. period. however i would be much more interested in seeing him put his talent to addressing some social/political issues not just banal images of made up human-like people.
ughh no wonder lisa yuskavage quit boesky saying that the program there was nowhere. this is kinda nowhere. i looked at the images on line though and i have to say one thing, they're similar to the visual strategy of scott taylor ( cobbling things together w/ wrong scale and surrealist juxtaposition) but WAAAAAYYYYY better than that to look at. yah they DO look like nicky hoberman as someone said. ew.
Yi Chen can afford to push further on his articulation of the constructed human. It would be well worth it if he did. It would be well worth moving away from a nice benetton (great colors, neutral politics, globalization-Positive) aesthetic and more toward what Mary Shelley intuited.
Mixing races and ethnicities may NOT make for a pretty, well-designed picture. Through religion and politics into the mess, you get a pretty fucked-up but richly complicated picture to say the least.
The U.S. aids in the construction of frankenstein's every day -- and I'm not talking within the US -- it is almost a national policy -- or should I say national security policy... What about this kind portrait? What kind of horror, and what kind of beauty?
Is there any impotant kind of visualization of globalization that escapes the utopia of tastful benetton color schemes that emptily lobbies this rather empty-empty-empty signifier we call 'democracy'. In Chen, I see a beauty that is rather empty - perhaps because they are a little too tasteful and buyable -- It lobbies for a popular buy-in, and it seems to say shit about what this work may 'want' to explore.
Perhaps Chen has a different outlook, perhaps less bleak. -- I would like to feel an opinion in his paintings. I don't yet, but perhaps I will someday.
Looks like Elizabeth Peyton and Francis Bacon's disgruntled love children. I've lost my appetite... Barnaby Furnas and Sue De Beer, who's work I like, are in the same gallery?!?..
Painter, you have a lot of power and you might not even know it.
I went to this show today because you had posted this.
This paintings stink. Sorry to the arist if you're reading this, you might want to stop (reading that is, painting is another thing)
This is such a tired academic practice. Make a collage, copy the collage. this is nothting more than a pastiche of academic figuration thrown in to a flat collage of an environment. Know wonder Yusakaitch left Boesky (too much attention to Furnas as well)
To the artist, try to paint the WHOLE figure, in a whole fictive environment. Look at Yuskavitch, and her husband Levenstien. Look at Kauper.
Look at Ingres.
You're young, you can change, and grow.
Painter, why the Brown post, she doesn't have a show up. Isn't there anyone else with work up we can discuss.
Talking around a Jpeg is really pointless. It's great if it directs one to a show. Other wise it's pointless.
Snickers, you have a lot of power and you might not even know it.
I read your post because you posted.
This post stinks. You might want to stop (reading that is, painting is another thing)
This is such a tired academic practice. Make a point, repeat the point. this is nothting more than a pastiche of academic critique thrown in to a flat conversational aside. Know wonder Anonymous left a doodoo.
To the writer, try to make the WHOLE point, in a whole fictive environment. Read Jerry Saltz, and her husband Roberta. Read the posts above..
Look at yourself.
You're anonymous, you can change, and grow.
Talking about the limitations of a Jpeg is really pointless. Its been done a lot here. It's great if it directs one to a show where paintings can be bought for a reasonable price. Other wise it's pointless.
instead of knocking this in any way why cant we just enjoy how asthetically pleasing it is. i enjoy this artists work alot .and just cause it is aesthetically pleasing that is not all it is, use your brains and make decisions for yourself don let anyone decide for you. and i think you all are being harsh fuck head critics. well most of you..im just a student. ilustration rock on.!
If this guy didn't have such a great 'hand' I'd think he were a hack. It adopts the plasticity of the fashion-plates and the vain; along with the Mr. Potato Head victim-hood of hipsters. He makes the models look retarded. I’m not sure what side of the fence Yi is on as he doesn’t seem to have any other approach other than making goofy faces (which I love but don’t respect).
ReplyDeleteI need to see these in person. Painter, do you know if there there collaged elements in these? I like the disparate quality of the facial features, and the herky-jerky pieced together look of some of the images on the Boesky site. But I worry that they're a bit too tasteful looking, especially color-wise. They have the feel of a color-aid design project. I feel like I want them to be more distressing to look at.
ReplyDeleteI agree JD. they lack edge.
ReplyDeleteBoesky lacks edge.
ReplyDeletelacks is prob. the wrong word. clearly it is not what she is going for - she is the Sand Grinder of edge.
ReplyDeleteI love it!
ReplyDeleteIf you LOVE IT, why dont you mary it? BONANZA!
ReplyDeleteBoesky makes tame seem like a noun.
Haha, Zipthwung, good point about the big eyes. Who's the British painter who shows at Feigen, who paints little big-eyed girls with cats?
ReplyDeleteit's so simple I don't get it.
ReplyDeletejd, you rule. i dig your comments
ReplyDeletethis is schmaltzy - even for Boesky. I like Barnaby Furnas...
ReplyDeletethere doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why this guy sometimes goes flat, sometimes goes with modeling, sometimes with collage, different levels of abstraction in the figures... and with a super-nondescript image. Doesn't do anything for me.
wonder what they are looking at
ReplyDeleteThey look like student assignments.
ReplyDeleteI went to art school, yes I did
ReplyDeleteNow peel me a grape.
really been scraping the bottom of the barrel lately
ReplyDeletewhat's next, a professor mouth drawing?
That painter of big-eyed girls at Feigen is Nicky Hoberman.
ReplyDeleteim a gonna paint me a enormous eyes,or one really micro and the other macro-how cool will THAT be,ed pashke?
ReplyDeleteI be for skin.
ReplyDeletea question for everyone: are these illustrations? i feel like ive seen VERY similar work in Rolling Stone magazine. i get the feeling that this work looks better in reproduction than it does in person...what do you all feel the difference between an 'illustration' and a pice of 'art' is?
ReplyDeleteyeah. this is what all the kids in the illustration dept. at SVA are doing... freelancing for the NYer. all about style, absolutely no content.
ReplyDeleteNormally I don't have a problem with "fine" artists quoting from illustrators but this is way too far.
ReplyDeletehttp://joesorren.com/archivenew/index09.html
I really would like to milk Zak Smith's wanker with my sloppy snatch.
ReplyDeletePainter - i am sure there are many good painters living in nyc that AREN'T exhibiting, would you consider showing some of them? the market is getting depressing.
ReplyDeletei saw this show... very very very briefly.
p.s. - remember that dream you told me about? it didn't come true, but your encouragement was sweet.
Martin, that's a great idea. There are indeed so many excellent artists who show seldom or not at all, or who do show but their work is sort of ignored. I do think it's important to comment on artists who are big right now, and some of them are great, but depressingly, many of them are more trendy than really interesting. It's encouraging that so many of us on this blog seem to recognise these artists when they are posted, and it would be interesting to see who Painter might come up with to counter that trendiness. We could also brainstorm here. . .
ReplyDeleteRobert Bordo
David Humphrey
Elena Sisto
Carrie Moyer
Nancy Friedemann
Susanna Coffey
Anoka Faruqee
Catherine Murphy
Jeffrey Saldinger
Charley Friedman
or you could realize what a blowhard you sound like
ReplyDeleteGIMME A BREAK COFFEY SUCKSSSSSSSSSS
ReplyDeletei really like your comments and your attitude JD. especially love seeing artist's artists like
ReplyDeleteandrew spence
gregory green
marilyn lerner
getting some attention here!
Yes anon 4:04, I am a hot young one and I get really wet down there. Lets get it going.
ReplyDeleteThese comments are disappointing.
ReplyDeleteThis work is very identifiable and does have a painterly quality in person. I haven't seen much of his work in person but at art fairs it always catches my eye.
Can we try and be more constructive. I love to look at this blog but then the comments feel dirty and wrong. The artist do read this as we see them come on time to time.
Painter I would suggest you delete comments that lack the quality of your blog.
this painting is dissappointing. so whats your bar of quality?
ReplyDeleteZak Sabbath? you don't find that compelling at all?
constructive. i think chen is very talented. period. however i would be much more interested in seeing him put his talent to addressing some social/political issues not just banal images of made up human-like people.
ReplyDeleteHow much art addressing social/political issues does it take to change a light bulb?
ReplyDeleteNONE! Art addressing social/political issues never changes anything.
ughh no wonder lisa yuskavage quit boesky saying that the program there was nowhere. this is kinda nowhere. i looked at the images on line though and i have to say one thing, they're similar to the visual strategy of scott taylor ( cobbling things together w/ wrong scale and surrealist juxtaposition) but WAAAAAYYYYY better than that to look at. yah they DO look like nicky hoberman as someone said. ew.
ReplyDeleteArt can change people. people are change, when you're a changer....
ReplyDeleteHaven't you ever made work that subverts the symbolism of the opposition?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
there's a very big difference between mocking or altering some symbol and actually changing the lives of real people via this activity.
ReplyDeleteYi Chen can afford to push further on his articulation of the constructed human. It would be well worth it if he did. It would be well worth moving away from a nice benetton (great colors, neutral politics, globalization-Positive) aesthetic and more toward what Mary Shelley intuited.
ReplyDeleteMixing races and ethnicities may NOT make for a pretty, well-designed picture. Through religion and politics into the mess, you get a pretty fucked-up but richly complicated picture to say the least.
The U.S. aids in the construction of frankenstein's every day -- and I'm not talking within the US -- it is almost a national policy -- or should I say national security policy... What about this kind portrait? What kind of horror, and what kind of beauty?
Is there any impotant kind of visualization of globalization that escapes the utopia of tastful benetton color schemes that emptily lobbies this rather empty-empty-empty signifier we call 'democracy'. In Chen, I see a beauty that is rather empty - perhaps because they are a little too tasteful and buyable -- It lobbies for a popular buy-in, and it seems to say shit about what this work may 'want' to explore.
Perhaps Chen has a different outlook, perhaps less bleak. -- I would like to feel an opinion in his paintings. I don't yet, but perhaps I will someday.
But perhaps for Chen...
ReplyDeleteGlobalization IS about popular buy-in.
Dunno.
not this one perhaps, but there are Artworks that have changed the course of my life. i do beleve in social movements.
ReplyDeletecoincidence?
ReplyDeleteYes! Billy 8:11 has it right. Painter, please, please censor us.
ReplyDeleteLooks like Elizabeth Peyton and Francis Bacon's disgruntled love children. I've lost my appetite...
ReplyDeleteBarnaby Furnas and Sue De Beer, who's work I like, are in the same gallery?!?..
Boesky has a seriously weird crew...
Painter, you have a lot of power and you might not even know it.
ReplyDeleteI went to this show today because you had posted this.
This paintings stink. Sorry to the arist if you're reading this, you might want to stop (reading that is, painting is another thing)
This is such a tired academic practice. Make a collage, copy the collage. this is nothting more than a pastiche of academic figuration thrown in to a flat collage of an environment. Know wonder Yusakaitch left Boesky (too much attention to Furnas as well)
To the artist, try to paint the WHOLE figure, in a whole fictive environment. Look at Yuskavitch, and her husband Levenstien. Look at Kauper.
Look at Ingres.
You're young, you can change, and grow.
Painter, why the Brown post, she doesn't have a show up. Isn't there anyone else with work up we can discuss.
Talking around a Jpeg is really pointless. It's great if it directs one to a show. Other wise it's pointless.
Why is snickers unable to register dislike without being pointlessly condescending?
ReplyDeleteIt's incredibly immature.
Snickers, you have a lot of power and you might not even know it.
ReplyDeleteI read your post because you posted.
This post stinks. You might want to stop (reading that is, painting is another thing)
This is such a tired academic practice. Make a point, repeat the point. this is nothting more than a pastiche of academic critique thrown in to a flat conversational aside. Know wonder Anonymous left a doodoo.
To the writer, try to make the WHOLE point, in a whole fictive environment. Read Jerry Saltz, and her husband Roberta. Read the posts above..
Look at yourself.
You're anonymous, you can change, and grow.
Talking about the limitations of a Jpeg is really pointless. Its been done a lot here. It's great if it directs one to a show where paintings can be bought for a reasonable price. Other wise it's pointless.
In conclusion, pointless.
Zip,
ReplyDeletetouche´ yeah sorry about the tone. it was a little didactic on my part, an outburst.
I deserved a bubble bursting.
It is what it is. Fashion-illustration. Funny to look at for a few seconds, but leaves you dry.
ReplyDeleteinstead of knocking this in any way why cant we just enjoy how asthetically pleasing it is. i enjoy this artists work alot .and just cause it is aesthetically pleasing that is not all it is, use your brains and make decisions for yourself don let anyone decide for you. and i think you all are being harsh fuck head critics. well most of you..im just a student. ilustration rock on.!
ReplyDelete